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23rd July 14, 09:35 AM
#211
Originally Posted by sailortats
The last several posts to this thread have been inspirational. Thanks to all that have contributed.
Amen Brother !!
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23rd July 14, 04:43 PM
#212
Totally agree with the last few posts, but one part of Nathan's comment ("Some even mock the traditional culture as backward.") especially struck me. Let us ( and Scots) not forget that many once considered all of Highland culture, not "just" the kilt, as "backwards" & "barbaric". One would hope that at this stage that more people would abandon such notions, that any culture is somehow less, and that those who choose to wear the kilt are not necessarily doing so to attract attention, but for a myriad of reasons, one often being for comfort, another as a connection to ones past. IMHO these are not "Birgadoonary", eccentric, nor foolish. A wise man once said:" if you don't learn the lessons of history, you are doomed to repeat them."
waulk softly and carry a big schtick
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23rd July 14, 05:06 PM
#213
Originally Posted by jhockin
Totally agree with the last few posts, but one part of Nathan's comment ("Some even mock the traditional culture as backward.") especially struck me. Let us ( and Scots) not forget that many once considered all of Highland culture, not "just" the kilt, as "backwards" & "barbaric". One would hope that at this stage that more people would abandon such notions, that any culture is somehow less, and that those who choose to wear the kilt are not necessarily doing so to attract attention, but for a myriad of reasons, one often being for comfort, another as a connection to ones past. IMHO these are not "Birgadoonary", eccentric, nor foolish. A wise man once said:" if you don't learn the lessons of history, you are doomed to repeat them."
And the thing is, the people I'm talking about are descended from Highlanders themselves. Some just view themselves as cosmopolitan urbanites in comparison and don't like being stereotyped as fishermen, farmers or rural, step dancing, fiddle playing, bag piping country folk. If someone grew up listening to Nirvana and his dad listened to Hank Williams, that stereotypical image doesn't always fit. When the stereotype doesn't fit, people rebel against it.
The thing is, the traditional culture is still vibrant and alive for a lot of people, especially in rural communities, but it is certainly stronger in some communities more than others.
My mother grew up in a Gaelic-speaking household and she and her cousin would make fun of their relatives with their "country buck" Gaelic accents when they'd come in to visit from Iona.
Old vs. new, city versus country, preservation vs. progress and other false dichotomies that define us.
Natan Easbaig Mac Dhòmhnaill, FSA Scot
Past High Commissioner, Clan Donald Canada
“Yet still the blood is strong, the heart is Highland, And we, in dreams, behold the Hebrides.” - The Canadian Boat Song.
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23rd July 14, 05:23 PM
#214
Originally Posted by Nathan
Perhaps Scotland will eventually come to the same conclusion that I have and that this website's existence proves; that being modern and traditional are not mutually exclusive.
Well said Nathan. I think you hit the nail on the head with this post.
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23rd July 14, 06:39 PM
#215
Originally Posted by creagdhubh
Extremely well said, Nathan. Your eloquent choice of words, in my honest and humble opinion, is absolutely spot on. I could not agree more with your perspective, and the sentiment is definitely shared. Whilst reading your post, a particular song by the wonderfully talented musician, Steve McDonald of New Zealand, kept playing through my mind. The song is called, "All You Can Know" from McDonald's Sons of Somerled album released by Etherean Music, Inc. in 1996. This song, as well as the entire album, actually served as my "official soundtrack" during the beginning of my genealogical research, and when I began asking my family questions regarding our Highland heritage. It's quite an evocative tune with unique application to the points you raised throughout your post. You may have heard it before.
Apologies, the digital quality of the video isn't that good, but the audio is fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBKGbiZPYoc
Slainte mhath,
Ditto to @Nathan's excellent post and ditto to Steve McDonald's "Sons of Somerled" album. Good tunes and also my own soundtrack to my first enquiries about our roots.
Last edited by TheOfficialBren; 26th July 14 at 07:00 PM.
Reason: Spelling corrected
The Official [BREN]
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30th July 14, 01:09 AM
#216
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30th July 14, 02:33 AM
#217
Originally Posted by Ron Abbott
Yes indeed a fun, with a large dollop of truth contained within, list of observations and I find nos 9/10 particularly pertinent, for ALL those visiting Scotland.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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14th October 14, 11:50 PM
#218
Well, I have just waded through all the posts in this thread and with the added observations and discussions with natives and visitors, that I have had since this train of thought germinated in my mind, the end result, thus far, is that I am none the wiser!
Its like grasping mist on the hill, its there for anyone to see, but can anyone get hold of it? No!
What I do know, is that on occasion now when getting dressed, I actually find myself considering if I should wear the kilt for no reason at all and worse still, for such and such an event. Something that in the past would never have occured and I find that unsettling.
What I am unable to grasp are undercurrents that certainly exist within Scotland, but as yet I am unable to define, or even begin to understand.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 15th October 14 at 12:07 AM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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15th October 14, 01:09 AM
#219
The question shouldn't be "why don't the Scots wear the kilt daily?" but maybe "why do so many Scots wear the kilt daily?", or at least, "why is the kilt worn so often?". I know of no other European country where the national dress is so commonly seen. I also know of no other country where the folk dress of a non-elite group was adopted by the whole country as the national dress. Scotland, it seems to me, is an anomaly. Mind you I'm no expert on these things.
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15th October 14, 04:26 AM
#220
Between bwat and Jock Scot's two posts, I too had that funny shiver flow over my nape. It's like looking in the mirror one day and seeing your parent's face, then rubbing your eyes and seeing yourself. "No particular reason" might be the answer, or like parents always say, "because, I said so." But isn't it grand!
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