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2nd August 14, 10:20 AM
#231
Hello Jock...
no, of course I don't think this is very common to most people but I found it an interesting point of view written more than 50 years ago...and we still discuss.
But as Gustav Mahler said:"Tradition is preserving the fire and and not worshipping the ashes.".
Alltogether kiltwearing is a great joy to me and maybe that'll be enough to legitimate me and others who think and feel similar.
 Tom
"A true gentleman knows how to play the bagpipes but doesn't!"
Member of Clan Macpherson Association
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2nd August 14, 10:26 AM
#232
...and after all it seems to be a pleading for tolerance and not to take oneself to seriously.
"A true gentleman knows how to play the bagpipes but doesn't!"
Member of Clan Macpherson Association
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2nd August 14, 10:31 AM
#233
Remember Tom, those words were written 50 years ago and I regret to say that most Scots will probably have no idea who Gustav Mahler was! What you choose to do is, of course, entirely your choice. Have fun. 
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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2nd August 14, 10:45 AM
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2nd August 14, 11:04 AM
#235
...I regret to say that most Scots will probably have no idea who Gustav Mahler was!
With respect, sir - this statement is rather presumptive, to say the least - and does not give due credit to the Scottish Education system, or the breadth of the cultural knowledge of Scots today.
Orionson
"I seek not to follow in the footsteps of the men of old.
I seek the things they sought." ~ Basho
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2nd August 14, 11:07 AM
#236
 Originally Posted by Pipersson
The past is the base of presents and root to future I would say.
To me Mr McKinnon seems to have been a quite serious writer on the whole kilt subject so no reason not to take him still seriously today. If you agree with him is another thing.
By the way why don't you like books?
If that is true you should reconsider the scottish school system!  
Tom
With the greatest respects Tom, whilst there are no doubt always improvements to be made to the Scottish School System, I think that is probably best to let the Scots decide on that, don't you?
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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2nd August 14, 11:30 AM
#237
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
... I honestly do detect a "tartan overload" in a tourist context, developing in Scotland.
I suspect that is very true Jock but then it does bring more tourists and, perhaps as importantly, their money, to Scotland. They are welcome to as many shortbread tins as they can carry home!
Regards, Sav.
"The Sun Never Sets on X-Marks!"
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2nd August 14, 11:48 AM
#238
Originally Posted by Orionson
...I regret to say that most Scots will probably have no idea who Gustav Mahler was!
With respect, sir - this statement is rather presumptive, to say the least - and does not give due credit to the Scottish Education system, or the breadth of the cultural knowledge of Scots today.
I just happen to have five 17 year old examples(better than average I would say) of the Scottish educational system in the house at this very moment and they have never heard of Gustav Mahler! Not a sure fire indication, for sure , but.........
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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2nd August 14, 11:53 AM
#239
@Jock: Yes I believe the Scots are fully capable to decide that themselves though Mahler is worth to be known also in Scotland...
I would guess by the way that there is a great number of Scots who aren't interested in kilts and tartan tradition at all...
And after all you don't have be McKinnon to come to these conclusions - also today.
All the people over the world won't buy their kilts just for their cupboards.
If my only choice is to make a fool of myself by wearing my kilt in Scotland I will be pleased to do so!
"A true gentleman knows how to play the bagpipes but doesn't!"
Member of Clan Macpherson Association
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2nd August 14, 11:58 AM
#240
After 32 years in the education system, over half as a vice-principal and principal (headmaster) I'm always fascinated by discussions of education. There are two distinct groups of critics: the "body of knowledge" people and the "process" people.
The latter believe in teaching students to think, understand and research so that no matter how the body of knowledge changes, they'll be able to access it. The former believe that if people don't know the same things they do, they're uneducated. I guess that depends on which body of knowledge you've been given, and how you've been taught to use it.
I have tremendous respect for both the German and Scottish education systems, with friends and colleagues in both... but they're different.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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