I would like to submit a proposal to the membership

[Jock Scot]

Then Jock, by your definition there should be these categories?

Kilt Wearing

By this thinking we can take all the threads in the current Kilt Styles section and move them into General Kilt Talk and rename it just Kilt Talk.


However, still following this line of thinking - If we decide to keep separate sections they could be something like -

Kilt Newbie Section- If you are new to the forum post an introduction

Newbie Posts

Kilt Style Section

Kilts as a uniform - For those member who have an interest in the dress of the Military and Pipe Bands
Kilts as a costume - For those members who have an interest in the stage, screen, and Ren Faires,
Kilts as they were worn in the past - For our members to post photos and illustrations of kilts and outfits from the past.
Kilts as they are worn today - For our member to discuss all the ways kilt may be, and are, worn today.

Kilt Information Section

Tutorials and How-To's
The Library
Putting it on properly
Care and maintenance
DIY Showroom

I hesitate to answer the question directly Steve, not because I can't, but I know Colin and Nathan have spent a lot of time and more than a liitle grey matter coming up with a THCD discussion, so I would prefer to wait to see that before answering, you directly.

However looking at your "KILTS AS THEY ARE WORN TODAY" proposition, hummmmm, I think that lumps the traditional kilt(by looks) with the utility style kilt and that will take us straight back to the muddle that we had before THCD was introduced, which even with its faults, actually put some order in a very muddled and often acrimonious situation. Whilst the Utilty styled kilt is a kilt and to fair and as I understand it, that style does not claim a Scottish connection. On the other hand a tartan kilt does, however it is built and whatever it is made of and does imply a Scottish connection, whether we like it or not. It is how the tartan kilt is worn, the context and what it is worn with, that makes the look traditional , or not.

[CMcG]

I hesitate to answer the question directly Steve, not because I can't, but I know Colin and Nathan have spent a lot of time and more than a liitle grey matter coming up with a THCD discussion, so I would prefer to wait to see that before answering, you directly.

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FYI, we're getting together on Monday night to hash out the last details of the text and make the final selection of images for the photo essay.

[Hawk]

I really like some of the things presented and represented in post #29 by CMcG....

I agree with Father Bill and others, this is interesting.....let's keep the discussion going Steve, for as we go, this streamlined approach and the brainstorming is producing some valuable insights. I am feeling the answer lays somewhere between Nathan's and CMcG and Father Bills suggestions, among others input.....hummmmm...

Hawk

[Grizzly]

Or you could just leave it as it is. When I log in, I always click on "new posts" and rarely pay attention to the category. If a post interests me I scan through and sometimes comment or hit the aye button. The only time I pay any attention to the categories is when I decide to start a new post.
As Jock often says - you're over thinking this.
Slainte

This is what I do too Liam. As for posting I am sometimes in a quandary as to where to post!

If any subject takes my fancy, I will respond to the post regardless of which forum it's in, but I will try to temper my response accordingly.

[Steve Ashton]

"Whilst the Utilty styled kilt is a kilt and to fair and as I understand it, that style does not claim a Scottish connection."

In fact Jock that only applies to the Utilikilt brand. Steven calls his product a MUG. He is the only MUG maker that I know of.

[Jock Scot]

Unfortunateely Steve I had to use the term" Utility STYLED" kilt as I would not know one from another. I just have no real knowledge of that general style----I have only ever seen three in the wild and only one close too. Nevertheless , I don't think that anyone would, or could, put that style of kilt in a traditional bracket, do you? Therein lies the problem with that heading you propsed.

[Steve Ashton]

While the other products may not fit the definition, used by some here, of traditional they are kilts.

A silver metallic kilt made by 21st Century Kilts is a kilt.
A solid colored kilt made by Freedom Kilts is a kilt.
A pin stripped kilt as worn by Hamish is a kilt.

[Father Bill]

You know... any time you try to use words to define feelings, senses, and preferences, you do get into a mug's game... or MUG's game at that.

To be quite honest, I have the MUG/ Utilikilt forum on "ignore" because it doesn't interest me. That doesn't mean it's "bad," just that it doesn't interest me. If there's a new and appropriate post there that needs moderator approval, I do so without a second thought because I'm quite happy that the folks there should have their discussions. Should there be a flag there, I read the thread and deal with it, but I'm generally blissfully unaware of it, and that's the way I like it - my personal preference, that's all.

Whatever definitions may come to mind, the rest of the categories tend to overlap and blend into one another because the differences are largely a matter of personal opinion and preference - the exact thing that this thread is trying to define, but I'll lose interest in the forum quickly if I'm often being shown stuff that interests other good folks but not me.

I would imagine that there are others doing similar things, possibly with the very fora that interest me. More power to them! The ability to ignore what we don't care about is what has made XMarks palatable and interesting to a lot of us.

[Steve Ashton]

Bill, can you point me towards the "MUG/ Utilikilt forum". I don't know where that is.

[Jock Scot]

I am sorry Steve I have to dash, but from what I know------and without checking------they are as far as I know, indeed kilts and I have never said, I think, otherwise. How they would fit into things I cannot say, yet. I have a long journey ahead of me, so I may not come up with a sensible reply for more than a while. Over and out, for now.