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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlands4me View Post
    [FONT=georgia]In the process of choosing the tartan for my new kilt. 11 swatches on order from Lochcarron, 16 oz. Strome.
    By all means choose this version if it takes your fancy but you may be interested to know that its colouration is historically at odds with the original coat.
    Last edited by figheadair; 16th October 14 at 11:20 PM.

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    By all means choose this version if it takes your fancy but you may be interested to know that its colouration is historically at odds with the original coat.


    Figheadair, can you elaborate further please? Are you saying that this particular variation and mill is "historically at odds with the original coat", or all current producers of this tartan "historically at odds with the original coat"? Please advise. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighlands4me View Post
    By all means choose this version if it takes your fancy but you may be interested to know that its colouration is historically at odds with the original coat.


    Figheadair, can you elaborate further please? Are you saying that this particular variation and mill is "historically at odds with the original coat", or all current producers of this tartan "historically at odds with the original coat"? Please advise. Thanks
    Peter (Figheadair) has examined the original Culloden coat, and determined what the tartan's correct colors and thread count were.

    Matt Newsome of New House Highland has made kilts from the original Culloden 1746 tartan. This link shows one of them: http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ve-made-73873/

    The tartan as registered with The Scottish Register of Tartans. http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tar....aspx?ref=5495

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    Please excuse my lack of knowledge pertaining to the 1746 Culloden tartan. Thank you Highlander31 for the schooling, much appreciated. I now have a better understanding of things pertaining to this tartan. Again, thanks to all.

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    Now, I think, that has all been clarified to the OP's satisfaction, perhaps Peter can remind us------OK me----- how the tartan came to be known as the "Culloden" tartan?
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    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Now, I think, that has all been clarified to the OP's satisfaction, perhaps Peter can remind us------OK me----- how the tartan came to be known as the "Culloden" tartan?
    The tartan was first shown by D.W. Stewart in his 1893 work 'Old & Rare Scottish Tartans' where it was named as From a Coat worn at Culloden. At the time Stewart wrote his book the artefact belonged to Gourlay Steell RSA (1804-91) and I can trace its ownership back through another two RSA members to the mid-1800s before which one is left to speculate. My own opinion is that it was probably acquired at some time between 1800-50 from the family of the individual that wore it at Culloden but there is no information on who he, and therefore the family, was.

    Rediscovering the coat was pretty remarkable after it had disappeared for 100 years but I doubt that we will ever be fortunate enough to uncover the identity of the original owner.

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    I hesitate to pursue this Peter, but is there any actual proof of a connection to either Culloden as a place, or the battle itself? Are we, perhaps, talking hearsay here?
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    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    I used to have a lot of problems with a technician who - it turned out - was colour blind.

    It was fun when he brought along things he was working on and they were just way off with the colours - he'd never been tested or questioned about possible problems. The whole department was tested in the end and there were a couple of men with different colour recognition problems.


    Some people really do see colours differently and cannot differentiate between what to others are very different colours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pleater View Post
    Some people really do see colours differently and cannot differentiate between what to others are very different colours.
    Anne the Pleater :ootd:
    Aye. red / green colour deficiency in males is apparently the most common colour "blindness" and one that I have. When I was a classroom teacher, I had taught my kids to correct me as necessary"

    Me: "Take the purple book..."
    Kids (interupting): "Blue, Sir."
    Me (with a grin): "Take the blue book..."

    It was a kindness that I taught them to use with appropriate quiet good manners.

    Gee, I loved the kids!
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