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                                                22nd October 14, 04:56 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	No, whatever it is, it isn't that.  Isn't the blazon on the certificate?  (It doesn't seem to have been uploaded to the online SABH database yet.  http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/...63%26DB%3DHERE )
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Dram   You're correct that was accidentally omitted. Two chevrons cottised Or?
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                                                22nd October 14, 06:13 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Hello Joseph,
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Joseph McMillan   
 I may have made a mistake I believe it was called "a chevron cottised" and was originally omitted from the blazon. Although the arms are "registered" I am waiting for the certificate which may take until December. The Herald in South Africa referred to it as a Chevron Cottised...I mistakenly said two chevrons.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd October 14, 09:07 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					But a chevron cotised is a chevron flanked by two narrow chevrons with the tincture of the field showing through in between, like this:
 
  
 If your chevron is in fact blazoned as cotised, then there must be something to indicate that the space between the chevron and the cotises is gold instead of ermine.  It's a very attractive design, but I can't think of a way to blazon this treatment of the chevron, where the space is not the same tincture as the field, without getting horribly convoluted.  I'm curious to know what the SABH came up with.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd October 14, 09:28 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by Joseph McMillan   But a chevron cotised is a chevron flanked by two narrow chevrons with the tincture of the field showing through in between, like this:   
If your chevron is in fact blazoned as cotised, then there must be something to indicate that the space between the chevron and the cotises is gold instead of ermine.  It's a very attractive design, but I can't think of a way to blazon this treatment of the chevron, where the space is not the same tincture as the field, without getting horribly convoluted.  I'm curious to know what the SABH came up with. Hi Joseph,
 
 I will have to ask them (SABH) and try to clarify and will post back when I have a response.
 
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                                                22nd October 14, 11:26 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Joseph,
 This is the way it should read: a chevron cottised Gules, voided Or.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd October 14, 03:47 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					On a chevron Gules between a couple close Or, a heart Or between two shamrocks Argent? 
 As depicted in the margin?
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                30th October 14, 04:56 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Hi Dram, my draft has come through today from the Bureau of Heraldry. I think it looks great :-)
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Dram   My Pleasure. Nice arms! Of course SA will disallow the supporters, but I know you'll be happy with their guidance. 
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                                                30th October 14, 07:07 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Quite nice. Simple is best and this is a very identifiable coat because of that. I think you're well on your way. Is the crest a warbler or some type?
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                30th October 14, 07:11 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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 Another representation of my arms
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                31st October 14, 10:33 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Your full heraldic achievement is great Dram. The bird I thought was a blue throated nightingale but its been suggested that a blue throat isn't a nightingale at all.....however to the best of my scant knowledge they are from the same family. (Swedish Nightingale )
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Dram   Quite nice. Simple is best and this is a very identifiable coat because of that. I think you're well on your way. Is the crest a warbler or some type? 
				
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