Something that Hamish wrote years ago that stuck in my head

[Alan H]

Minimum length post, now no longer obnoxious.

[ThistleDown]

Yes, you are, Alan, and without reason as you say. Before this thread deviates too much more:

[Alan H]

There, I un-obnoxious'ed it.

[ThistleDown]

That was an extreme edit, Alan, but thank you. You see, this isn't all about you, or about how you or any other of us wear the kilt in California or elsewhere in this wide world, but about the international forum called XMTS and how all of us -- from all over -- wear this 'garment', and how we wear it relative to where it is iconic. For many of us it is traditional dress, for some it is costume or uniform, and for others it is perhaps a rebellion against what is the 'norm' in their part of the world.

[Alan H]

Well, the rant about the C. Club was very unnecessary on this forum and had nothing to do with the topic, anyway. I'll spare you the reasons why I wrote it and we can all just be glad that I deleted it.

As for the rest of it, I'm just tired of the never-ending back and forth about the same old stuff, with the same old attitudes over and over and over again and I think that maybe this kinds of wraps it up for me. Who knows, we'll see.

[Jock Scot]

As for the rest of it, I'm just tired of the never-ending back and forth about the same old stuff, with the same old attitudes over and over and over again and I think that maybe this kinds of wraps it up for me. Who knows, we'll see.

Hi Alan. I know how you feel about talking about the same kilt stuff time and time again and for the last year the realisation began to dawn on me that there is only so much that anyone can talk about their slant on kilt matters and only so many times that one can do it. We all have our own views and frankly it is unlikely that any of us are ever going to change our particular slant on kilt matters by much and it is unreasonable to expect people so to do.

With a healthy website there is a steady influx of new members and it is as sure as night follows day that the same questions are asked and just assuredly the same people will answer the questions time and time again. Just occasionally a new member sticks around for long enough and starts to answer questions with his/her view on things. That is the reality of a website, particularly when kilt attire is such a small issue to discuss. This could be helped if the discussion base could be expanded in some way, but the fact is, the owner of this website has his own perfectly legitimate reasons for not doing so.

Now when I started here, traditional kilt attire was a minority subject and now, until recently at least , traditional kilt attire was a core subject here. In fact, I understand that this website has a reputation as a traditional kilt website, which does limit the conversation somewhat. No amount of micro management by the management and mods, or, hope, will ever change that until the members start to discuss the neglected kilt issues because they find a reason to discuss them and it seems that at the moment that they do not wish to. It could change back to how it used to be some 7/8 years ago, it could change easily, but only if enough members wish to lead it that way.

In the meantime, I hope you and plenty of the other "old lags" hang about and you never know one of us may even come up with a new slant on a well worn topic route!