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19th December 14, 08:39 AM
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Do Not Fash yerself
I am with you, Jock, but, let us remember the old forum denominations were The Kilt Styles. Weren't they? New Words were needed to show the new enlightened outlook. It seems the new terminology was not meant so much to lump all of kilt wearing into "fashion" as to allow us to distinguish one fashion of kilt wearing from another. As in "He behaves in a gentlemanly fashion." That usage of the F word is pretty old, too.
Advertising copywriters have made a fortune distinguishing their clients' stylish wares from merely fashionable ones, while their partners sold other goods as The Height of Fashion. Somehow, in that context, Stylish is durable and good looking, while Fashionable is fast and a little cheap- and attractive as the devil.
I agree with you, we want to be Timeless and Durable, but now and then, it's not the end of the world if others see us as attractive as the devil, too.
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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19th December 14, 10:14 AM
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Shades of meaning
...and shades of...
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair.
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19th December 14, 02:13 PM
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OCR.
With the greatest of respect we all know that meanings of a particular word have different meanings depending on the context, also time changes word meanings too, take the word "gay", it does not mean today what it used to mean some 40 years ago.
As we are talking about clothing then "fashion" means a transient and short term timeline such as this year's fashion as opposed to last year's fashion and so on. Ok we can split hairs on the word "style" too if we choose, but I think we all know what modern style, traditional style, historical style means. 
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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19th December 14, 03:23 PM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
OCR.
With the greatest of respect we all know that meanings of a particular word have different meanings depending on the context, also time changes word meanings too, take the word "gay", it does not mean today what it used to mean some 40 years ago.
As we are talking about clothing then "fashion" means a transient and short term timeline such as this year's fashion as opposed to last year's fashion and so on. Ok we can split hairs on the word "style" too if we choose, but I think we all know what modern style, traditional style, historical style means.
OCR and JS. Gentlemen..... I believe we are encountering another example of "nations being separated by a common language"
"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
well, that comes from poor judgement."
A. A. Milne
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19th December 14, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Liam
OCR and JS. Gentlemen..... I believe we are encountering another example of "nations being separated by a common language"
Yes and no. California, USA native-born member and I agree with Jock Scott on fashion and style in this context.
Clan Mackintosh North America / Clan Chattan Association
Cormack, McIntosh, Gow, Finlayson, Farquar, Waters, Swanson, Ross, Oag, Gilbert, Munro, Turnbough,
McElroy, McCoy, Mackay, Henderson, Ivester, Castles, Copeland, MacQueen, McCumber, Matheson, Burns,
Wilson, Campbell, Bartlett, Munro - a few of the ancestral names, mainly from the North-east of Scotland
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19th December 14, 09:36 PM
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With respect, OCR, Dr Hayakawa was president of the International Society for General Semantics (now the Institute for GS) and believed very strongly in the value of 'context' in the definition of words. On this subject he contributed innumerable articles to the Society's annual journal -- ETC -- during his lifetime.
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19th December 14, 09:44 PM
#7
Originally Posted by California Highlander
Yes and no. California, USA native-born member and I agree with Jock Scott on fashion and style in this context.
Of course you too are entitled to your opinion. That doesn't mean either JS or OCR are correct. My position is that they both are.
Slainte
"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
well, that comes from poor judgement."
A. A. Milne
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20th December 14, 04:34 AM
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My position is that on XMarks we seem to be able to quibble over the length of a shoelace. Wow!
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair.
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