Warning for abuse in the Pub

[Father Bill]

Just my opinion, for what it is worth.

... and mine too.

[Terry1948]

... and mine too.

And mine .... if your friend wants to talk like that in his home, that is one thing...but in a public place, well courtesy and good taste should prevail. The landlord was well within his rights and I applaud his stand.

[Norbo]

bare in mined he only said the word 1 time to me not loud or abusive just in conversation no swearing or abuse was used nore was there any shouting just a got a ticket from a *** with a hand held camera today. That's in pub of shouting people drinking and carrying on not some quiet establishment were he was shouting about it . Just in idle conversation 1 person to another in a busey pub . suppose your talking to your mate and said my eldest brither you know the one the slap head not the long heard one called in to day . and some bold bloke took offence would that be ok .

Talk about a nanny state . were would it end . my mats got real big feet they are like a yeti . some bloke with large feet takes offence . mate my dads so tall he's like jolly green giant I mean im tall at 6.1 but hes like 6.7 I recon my son will be tall as well bigger then me more like his grand dad . some tall bloke takes offence and complains . is that ok as well .

Non meant as an insult not shouted out just 1 person to another in a busy pub having an idle conversation.

[Jock Scot]

Norbo.

People, the public, within earshot of a conversation have rights too, they are sometimes included whether they like it, or not . They do not have to hear it and that is the point that the landlord is making. He is not saying that anyone cannot have a particular conversation, what he is saying that the conversation is not going to happen where he has any say in the matter, HIS pub,if others can hear it, and some one obviously did. That is why these conversations are best kept away from the public, at home.

[Dughlas mor]

Norbo, all your friend has to do is behave like a mature adult, and he won`t need to worry about getting the boot from anywhere. Perhaps your friend should come up with a slightly more respectful euphemism to use when referring to police.

[Norbo]

He was amazed any one even over heard him in the pub as there had already been a fight that night by 2 drunken men arguing about foot ball .
I mean is no different to a lady sitting with here kids at a table eating and she terns to one and says for God sake will you sit still please your getting more food on the floor and table then in your mouth be more like your sister wont you . And some religious person complains about here use of the word God, the restaurant owner tells her she is not welcome in the place again using that kind of language as a patron was offended. that's ok as well is it .

[Norbo]

So the thread about how a pub that would not allow a member in side wearing his kilts as its inappropriate dress that's ok and you back that do you . people were out raged but the principle is the same its his pub and he can do what he likes as people may be offended by a man in a kilt . if your going down that root you have to except everything even this. I just hate hypocrisy and injustice and I hate it .

There will come a time you wont be able to have any conversation without some one from some walk of life being offended. weather it be about big feet bold heads or me ever increasing waste line ginger hear to tall to small to thin its to wet and cold in the UK well im offended by that comment throw the bloke out talking about the uk in that manner . . the world has gone mad

[MinusHD]

I'm not sure I want to dip my toe into this thread, but here I am doing it...

I have to admit that I can see this both ways. Unless I'm missing something, the 3 letter word substituted for "police officer" is a word I would not consider to be vulgar or obscene. The way it was used does not seem to obscene either. Polite? Maybe not. I'm sure police, mayors, presidents, queens, and prophets and dieties of all religions, and anyone in between, have been described in public places with similar labels, and worse... without necessarily using obscene or vulgar language.

Obviously, people can be offended by things (verbal or otherwise) that may seem rather innocuous to you, me, or perhaps even most other people. It only takes one person to get offended and speak up, even if we don't think they should be offended. I do wish society as a whole was less sensitive to getting their feelings hurt. I also wish some people would be more sensitive to the feelings of others. Between those two groups the rest of us ebb and flow, and for the most part we manage to get along well enough without getting too ruffled about anything anybody might say.

At the end of the day, the person who runs a business will usually get to decide the rules of conduct in their establishment. I can't speak to the specifics of anti-discrimination law, which must be upheld. Beyond that, it's up to the pub owner/manager in this case, regardless of how innocent your friend's comment may have felt to him, or to you.

Personally, I think a threat to be banned from a pub for that kind of comment is a bit of an overreaction. I'm sure worse comments and worse language has been uttered there at some point. But somebody complained, and we don't know how that complaint was delivered to, or heard by the management. It's an unfortunate situation, and a lesson learned. It could be an opportunity to discuss exactly what happened with the manager and come out on the other side as friends, each with a better understanding... Or maybe it's a hint that this particular pub really isn't the place where your friend really wants to hang out. Just an opinion, from one kilted biker to another.

[NYClark]

Your example is not equivalent, it is very different. But that is not the point. If someone uses an intentionally offensive word, they shouldn't be surprised if they cause offense. Your friend does know the word is offensive, right? So he probably shouldn't be surprised by the reaction he caused.
My guess is that the landlord asked him to refrain from name calling, e.g. known offensive language, not all potentially offensive language.

[Norbo]

My example is just the same all of them are if a word is taken in offence no matter what it its, its offensive . the word he used is what every one calls them and was not considered anything out of the ordinary at all and its far from the worst thing they get called.
You must except that anything you say could be taken as offensive by any one and therefor when you are out you must stand in silence or pick your words very carefully taking time to think of every one that could be offended.
The place that would not allow a kilt on its grounds you must all so except his reasoning and his right to do so.

I'me very offended by the word God being used in such a fashion so the lady must all so leave the premises . it was used in anger and meant to be express her annoyance at here child she must be worned you must except this as I was offended by her comments .