The ideal time for the black argyll

**DyerStraits** · 5th March 15, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Nathan

Since I started this thread I have come to the conclusion that the ideal times for the black barathea Argyll are:

1) Less formal black tie occasions.
2) For formal day dress as an equivalent to a morning suit.

They are also a good option if:

1) You can change the buttons to black and wear them as a guest at a formal kilted wedding when you're not in the wedding party. The button change is optional but it is a great option if you want to be respectful but keep the eyes where they should be.

2) You have to lend someone your PC.

3) You're travelling, there will be black tie and can only pack one jacket.

4) You're a piper.

I think you've covered it perfectly.

**Tomo** · 6th March 15, 11:39 AM

Whilst the black barathea Argyll seams to divide opinions, in my view it's a very versatile jacket and is easy to dress up or dress down as the occasion requires. A change of waistcoat, sporran, hose, shirt and tie can alter the look dramatically.

That said I tend to wear my PC more often, mainly because I go kilted to more formal evening dos or the rugby (no jacket required or desired for that) and I'm loving my new acquired grey tweed Crail for day wear.

However, I have worn the black Argyll at wedding, when I felt the PC would be a little OTT, and for some black-tie business awards and dinners, which generally aren't that formal anyway. I think it also it works best on the odd occasion I have worn [quite voice] trews

**Jack Daw** · 10th March 15, 12:22 PM

At this important personal event, it was daytime, so I wore my Argyll jacket and waistcoat, along with a cream-color long tie (shows as white, but not white). I think it worked out adequately.

**Jock Scot** · 10th March 15, 12:35 PM

Very smart indeed! Nicely done, Steve.

If I may use your super picture for a wee educational point. As you are the "main man" in the proceedings then the cream coloured tie is absolutely bang on the mark. For those who are not quite so important to the event are best to choose other coloured ties.

**Jack Daw** · 10th March 15, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Very smart indeed! Nicely done, Steve.

If I may use your super picture for a wee educational point. As you are the "main man" in the proceedings then the cream coloured tie is absolutely bang on the mark. For those who are not quite so important to the event are best to choose other coloured ties.

Well, some of my guests chose to wear a pc; but for my best man, he knew to wear a black Argyll and a colored long tie. Noteworthy is that "Zardoz" wore a handsome tweed Argyll and long-tie. Of course, I wouldn't know how to do any of this without your previous comments, Jock.

**Jock Scot** · 10th March 15, 01:38 PM

I am delighted to have been able to lend a wee hand on your special day.

**ASinclair** · 10th March 15, 01:43 PM

Congratulations Steve! You look very smart, and your bride is lovely.

**Jack Daw** · 10th March 15, 02:27 PM

Thanks, Allen!

**Jack Daw** · 10th March 15, 02:29 PM

This photo I posted was taken by a guest with a cell phone; so, the colors are not perfect. Our official wedding photos are not handy from my office pc (which is my excuse for forgetting the website where they are stored).

**Liam** · 10th March 15, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Very smart indeed! Nicely done, Steve.

If I may use your super picture for a wee educational point. As you are the "main man" in the proceedings then the cream coloured tie is absolutely bang on the mark. For those who are not quite so important to the event are best to choose other coloured ties.

I concur... Well done, and congratulations! You make a fine looking couple.

While the focus of every wedding is the bride, and perhaps the brides maid(s) being second, and the mother of the bride third, and then the mother of the groom, and then the cute flower girl, the groom does have a role to play, after all without him there would be no wedding. He should stand out from his best man and groomsmen, and a tie such as you have worn does this nicely, assuming it isn't matching the brides attendants, which it doesn't appear to. The grooms men's ties can if it so pleases the bride, although the need for this escapes me. Of course, the other significant person is the father of the bride, because traditionally he is footing the bill, and he can therefore do whatever he pleases as long as he doesn't upstage the bride or the mother of the bride. If he is not, then he is relegated to guest status. If the bride and groom are footing the bill themselves, then they make the their own rules, but the groom should never have to match the brides maid or the flowers. It sets a bad precedent for the future, in my opinion.