A new twist on "The Question"

**Gibtron** · 10th July 15, 03:25 PM

I had my own new twist on this at the Seattle airport a few weeks ago. I was waiting to pickup a friend when a woman approached and asked if she could take a selfie, usually I have no problem with someone asking to take their picture with me when I am kilted. However when she went to put her phone under my kilt I took a quick step back and said "darling you aren't up there so that ain't no selfie. " I am sure she thought she was being cute and clever but I sure wasn't laughing.

**ratspike** · 10th July 15, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Gibtron

I had my own new twist on this at the Seattle airport a few weeks ago. I was waiting to pickup a friend when a woman approached and asked if she could take a selfie, usually I have no problem with someone asking to take their picture with me when I am kilted. However when she went to put her phone under my kilt I took a quick step back and said "darling you aren't up there so that ain't no selfie. " I am sure she thought she was being cute and clever but I sure wasn't laughing.

What a disgusting pig of a human being. I can't even begin to understand the thought process that leads up a person thinking that kind of thing is okay, since we all know what would happen if a man tried to do that to a woman. While I was yelling at the woman who did it to me she actually said, in all seriousness, that I was asking for it by wearing a kilt.

**Thekiltedmohawk** · 10th July 15, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by ratspike

What a disgusting pig of a human being. I can't even begin to understand the thought process that leads up a person thinking that kind of thing is okay, since we all know what would happen if a man tried to do that to a woman. While I was yelling at the woman who did it to me she actually said, in all seriousness, that I was asking for it by wearing a kilt.

Seriously, that reeks of hypocrisy on her part. That's like saying a girl asked for it by wearing a real short skirt at a bar.

**Julia Elliott** · 11th July 15, 07:01 AM

That is disgraceful. Sexual harassment is never funny.

A couple weekends ago I went out to a pub with a few work friends and one of them brought along a cousin, whom I had never met. As soon as I sat down, I knew she was going to be trouble. The bar staff wore kilts as they often do here in the summer. Our lovely barman came over to take my drink order , and she pops " the question".. he just kind of chuckled , made some friendly small talk and left. He returned with my drink and she started again. She kept this up for about an hour and I could see he was becoming uncomfortable . And so were the rest of us .It was ridiculous. When she couldn't get a satisfactory answer out of him, she moved on to making vulgar comments regarding his red hair. My friend repeatedly told her she was being inappropriate but it seemed to just goad her on. Eventually , we abandoned the table to move closer to the band .. I think we all felt that if we hadn't , groping would have been next. How does a handful of twits always get to ruin a good thing for the rest of us?

**416 Rigby** · 11th July 15, 09:37 AM

By giving up the kilts, they let the offenders win. What should've happened is nice shiny bracelets for the offenders complete with a ride in a police car. Do that a few times and that would be that. Done.

Until everyone is treated the same with this sort of thing, it will continue. As others have noted, a man doing that to a woman would be arrested. I say cuff 'em and stuff 'em!

**Richrail** · 11th July 15, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by 416 Rigby

By giving up the kilts, they let the offenders win. What should've happened is nice shiny bracelets for the offenders complete with a ride in a police car. Do that a few times and that would be that. Done.

Until everyone is treated the same with this sort of thing, it will continue. As others have noted, a man doing that to a woman would be arrested. I say cuff 'em and stuff 'em!

Not only shiny bracelets and a car ride but also a listing on a sex offenders registry for the rest of ones life.

**Riverkilt** · 11th July 15, 10:52 AM

Agree with the posts except the last. Have worked with sex offenders and rapists on probation for years (helps insure fewer victims are created).

Knowing what a true sex offender is, in my opinion a kilt groper - particularly a drunken kilt groper (aren't they all) would not qualify as a sex offender.

Just don't think a psychiatric evaluation would turn up the paraphilia of Frotteurism since to be diagnosed the person must have displayed the behavior over a period of at least six months.

For sure they'd easily meet the legal definition of assault, or sexual assault, in most jurisdictions but that is different than someone driven by sexual urges to "touch or rub against a nonconsenting person."

A person court ordered to sex offender treatment for the crime of groping up a kilt would be laughed out of group and no doubt refused to be accepted by the agency charged with treating sex offenders.

Best stick with the legal assault than go with the psychiatric deviancy of Frotteurism.

**Kevin Murphy** · 11th July 15, 10:55 AM

I think that they should at least allow bartender ls who don't wish to give up the kilt the freedom of choice.

**Angela Kaye Bodine** · 18th July 15, 03:19 PM

CameronCat, That lady is no lady she should of gotten in trouble not him..Why punish the man ? Whether it was a woman or a man it was wrong.. If I guy did that to a woman the poop would of hit the fan... It's not right..She should of gotten in trouble, not him.. He should be able to fight that and be able to STILL wear his kilts............HERE is a story that happened to me.. I was finishing up food shopping w 2 of our sons I'm wearing a kilt.. All of a sudden a hand pinched me under my kilt, I turned around about to smack someone and it was my husband lol. He saw my Mango Tango ( metallic orange ) van and wanted to surprise me because he got out of work early.. Now that is a funny story... BUT what happened to the man wasn't right or fair or anyone else in that situation. Its a shame he is the one getting punished.. .. A true lady or gentleman would never do that...Thanks for sharing the story...Angie

**jetstar63** · 26th July 15, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Richrail

Not only shiny bracelets and a car ride but also a listing on a sex offenders registry for the rest of ones life.

Sexual comments alone aren't enough to get yourself on any registry, but a physical action in that direction will.
I haven't run into this problem yet, maybe I am too old.