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    Inner apron cants and "peeks."

    So my acrylic kilt has shrunk... Well... Perhaps that's not how it really happened but....

    I have a 5 yard purchased new from a hire shop. It fit fairly well for an OTR garment until my middle spread a bit. I can still use the central holes but the under apron seems to can't a bit and "peek" below the outer apron. Is this likely a result of me weight gain or...?

    For reference, it's tagged at 36. I currently measure 40 (upper end of the "adjustability" I would expect). Apron measures 18
    Loyalty, Friendship, and Love....The Definition of family.

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    Could you perhaps post a picture of you in your kilt so we can better understand what you are describing?
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    I am finding the same issue with my utility kilt. I gained weight during my wife's health issue period and the result (for me) is that the under apron corner juts below the front apron as I slip the buckles to the far hole. I expect the kilt was mislabeled for size range rather than the construction. My choices are lose weight or replace the kilt. You may find this is your issue also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ashton View Post
    Could you perhaps post a picture of you in your kilt so we can better understand what you are describing?
    Thanks for the reply Steve. I have been avoiding front-on shots but I will try to capture it and post.

    I am beginning to suspect that my rump got a bit mor round as my belly did. I am seeing a lot of under apron visible before the kick pleat.

    Probably need to loose the weight anyway. I'll try to post a photo this evening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    I am finding the same issue with my utility kilt. I gained weight during my wife's health issue period and the result (for me) is that the under apron corner juts below the front apron as I slip the buckles to the far hole. I expect the kilt was mislabeled for size range rather than the construction. My choices are lose weight or replace the kilt. You may find this is your issue also.
    You are most likely correct. I notice the first pleat tends to stay spread out more. Suspect the back-side grew too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leprechaun-91 View Post
    Thanks for the reply Steve. I have been avoiding front-on shots but I will try to capture it and post.

    I am beginning to suspect that my rump got a bit mor round as my belly did. I am seeing a lot of under apron visible before the kick pleat.

    Probably need to loose the weight anyway. I'll try to post a photo this evening.
    Try to get us a shot of the right front where the outer apron should overlap the reverse pleat.
    There are a few things that can cause this but seeing what is happening should help us diagnose the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ashton View Post
    Try to get us a shot of the right front where the outer apron should overlap the reverse pleat.
    There are a few things that can cause this but seeing what is happening should help us diagnose the problem.
    Snapped a couple on my own. Will ask the MRS. to snap some this evening.

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    Ok, if I'm seeing right you seem to have two problems here.

    In your first photo it appears that you have what are called "Apron tips". These are the small parts of the deep and reverse pleats that will stick down below the aprons if not folded up.

    If this is right then I suspect that you have a less expensive, kilt. Or somebody missed this important detail when making your kilt. Our own Barb T did an article on these apron tips and how to correct them.

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=40778

    In your second photo it does appear that this kilt is too small for you now. If the kilt were sized perfectly the outer apron would overlap the under apron perfectly.
    There are two factors of the sizing that must be met. First is the waist size. Second is the hip size. If either of these is too small it will make the apron hang open, but in two different ways.
    If the waist is right but the hip too small the pleats will not hang straight down and the under apron will show.
    If the hips are ok but the waist only is too small the back of the kilt will develop shower curtain folds.

    If both are too small the aprons and pleats may hang correctly but the under apron will show evenly from waist to hem. For the first inch or so the under apron will just look like another pleat and some guys can live with that. Any more than an inch and it becomes pretty plain that the kilt is too small.

    If I am seeing your second photo right this kilt is almost 4 inches too small. That is usually more than re-building can fix. I'm not saying it can't be done just that the cost of a total re-build to widen each pleat incrementally would usually be more than buying another kilt that fits correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC View Post
    Ok, if I'm seeing right you seem to have two problems here.

    In your first photo it appears that you have what are called "Apron tips". These are the small parts of the deep and reverse pleats that will stick down below the aprons if not folded up.

    If this is right then I suspect that you have a less expensive, kilt. Or somebody missed this important detail when making your kilt. Our own Barb T did an article on these apron tips and how to correct them.

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=40778

    In your second photo it does appear that this kilt is too small for you now. If the kilt were sized perfectly the outer apron would overlap the under apron perfectly.
    There are two factors of the sizing that must be met. First is the waist size. Second is the hip size. If either of these is too small it will make the apron hang open, but in two different ways.
    If the waist is right but the hip too small the pleats will not hang straight down and the under apron will show.
    If the hips are ok but the waist only is too small the back of the kilt will develop shower curtain folds.

    If both are too small the aprons and pleats may hang correctly but the under apron will show evenly from waist to hem. For the first inch or so the under apron will just look like another pleat and some guys can live with that. Any more than an inch and it becomes pretty plain that the kilt is too small.

    If I am seeing your second photo right this kilt is almost 4 inches too small. That is usually more than re-building can fix. I'm not saying it can't be done just that the cost of a total re-build to widen each pleat incrementally would usually be more than buying another kilt that fits correctly.
    I think you nailed it. Even though the straps are still working (not using extenders) I think it's too small. This is an acrylics on I'm not going to invest in any rework. This will be an excuse to obtain a new, better fitting one and perhaps hit the treadmill.

    The tips bit was interesting. I suspect, though this is an inexpensive kilt, that the peeking is likely related to the sizing issue. The problem didn't present itself until I gained the inches. ... It's an "office kilt" for me. One to wear and not worry about. Don't be surprised it its up on the sale board soon though.

    Thanks so much for helping diagnose the root cause. Hopefully others can learn from my mistake.

    Cheers!

    David.
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