"Full Blooded"

**Downunder Kilt** · 24th February 16, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by freep

Well, while this thread has not directly discussed kilts, it has addressed several issues that have had no small amount of discussion on the forum in this and other more focused sections. For example, what entitles people to wear a given tartan, how to determine clan affiliation or membership, what degree of control as to the use of things generally regarded as Scottish do Scottish citizens retain and so forth. Degree of ethnicity is part and parcel of such considerations. These issues seem to me more related to kilts and things kilt-ish than they are miscellaneous. I wonder isn't there some middle ground, but it's your forum so I'll bide by your call.

Then perhaps with a little time and care one would have found the a thread that was specifically created for exactly this type of discussion. "
Genealogical Searches
This is not Ancestry.xmarks, but if you're tracing your roots and it relates to the Kilt then this is the place. Cheers

**freep** · 24th February 16, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt

Then perhaps with a little time and care one would have found the a thread that was specifically created for exactly this type of discussion. "
Genealogical Searches
This is not Ancestry.xmarks, but if you're tracing your roots and it relates to the Kilt then this is the place. Cheers

Well, Father Bill, though the original concept was not concerned with genealogy, it has drifted that way so you'd best move it over there in the interest of peace, love and haggis.

**Kiltedjohn** · 25th February 16, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by freep

Which DNA test did you have performed?
Y-DNA will tell you matches with people now living and some general geographical origins.
MT-DNA will get you no closer than 500 years or so ago and some very, very broad information about geographical origins. (And in my opinion is a waste of time.)
Autosomal testing will get you matches with living cousins.

DNA is only half of the equation. In order to narrow things down as to actual geographical origins, you need to collect data from genealogical records of your DNA matches. In other words, you need to know where the ancestors of all those DNA matches lived and that comes from family records and family trees.

Thanks, Freep, for your comments. I had an autosomal DNA test. I'm in the process of contacting matches. I've found it difficult to make much progress on my family tree on the Cypriot side, as records seem hard to find (or non-existent).

**Father Bill** · 25th February 16, 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by freep

Well, Father Bill, though the original concept was not concerned with genealogy, it has drifted that way so you'd best move it over there in the interest of peace, love and haggis.

Moving at request of OP.

Father Bill for the Forum Moderators.

**freep** · 25th February 16, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt

Then perhaps with a little time and care one would have found the a thread that was specifically created for exactly this type of discussion. "
Genealogical Searches
This is not Ancestry.xmarks, but if you're tracing your roots and it relates to the Kilt then this is the place. Cheers

So, then, it is moved. Due to a minor misunderstanding it's now, obviously, in the Miscellaneous Forum.
I'm hoping this won't be an issue as it didn't make it into the Genealogical Searches Forum.
Does this work for you Downunder Kilt?
Cheers.

**Downunder Kilt** · 25th February 16, 09:54 PM

Absolutely brilliant Freep. For future reference, if you start a thread and it steers away from your original intent, you can ask the members to stay on topic, you can ask the mods to delete any post that is not on topic, you can ask for the thread to be closed or moved. You are the owner of the thread and can control how it runs. Cheers.

**freep** · 26th February 16, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt

Absolutely brilliant Freep. For future reference, if you start a thread and it steers away from your original intent, you can ask the members to stay on topic, you can ask the mods to delete any post that is not on topic, you can ask for the thread to be closed or moved. You are the owner of the thread and can control how it runs. Cheers.

I'll bear that in mind.

**Father Bill** · 26th February 16, 06:39 AM

Freep, if you want it in Geneological Searches, I can still put it there. I just thought it had other elements as well.

We use the guideline at XMarks that the OP is the "owner" of the thread unless it's veering across the rules.

Father Bill for the Forum Moderators.

**Pleater** · 26th February 16, 06:51 AM

My education and interests being scientific, I studied inheritance and genetics - and one of the difficulties when breeding my colourful little budgerigars is that from any individual ancestor only half the genome is passed on to any offspring.

It is usually necessary to spend a long time trying to obtain a strain of individuals with one particular inherited feature, though I did have one cobalt blue bird (called Roger) who became the source of lots more cobalt blue offspring than statistically probable.

With people and tribes, I pity those trying to make the rules, because it would be quite possible for someone with only a limited amount of tribe DNA to appear 'full blooded' if they inherited the genes for tribal appearance, but for someone with - for instance, one great grandparent being an incomer, to resemble their great great grandmother or father.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

**jthk** · 26th February 16, 06:53 AM

Often the US-based Native nations have blood quantum requirements that are imposed on them from the federal US government. Many Native nations do not have blood quantum rules/requirements as a part of their culture historically.

Best,
Jonathan

Originally Posted by Pleater

My education and interests being scientific, I studied inheritance and genetics - and one of the difficulties when breeding my colourful little budgerigars is that from any individual ancestor only half the genome is passed on to any offspring.

It is usually necessary to spend a long time trying to obtain a strain of individuals with one particular inherited feature, though I did have one cobalt blue bird (called Roger) who became the source of lots more cobalt blue offspring than statistically probable.

With people and tribes, I pity those trying to make the rules, because it would be quite possible for someone with only a limited amount of tribe DNA to appear 'full blooded' if they inherited the genes for tribal appearance, but for someone with - for instance, one great grandparent being an incomer, to resemble their great great grandmother or father.

Anne the Pleater :ootd: