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    Peter,

    Just to confirm that the colors on my screen are accurate, the two photos show red, blue, and black?

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    Peter,
    Your "Both sides of the join." attachment doesn't work for me - maybe that's inhibiting response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neloon View Post
    Peter,
    Your "Both sides of the join." attachment doesn't work for me - maybe that's inhibiting response.
    Alan
    Thanks Alan. Re-done the post and all seems ok now.

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    The piece is approximately 89 x 40 inches. So what does this tell you/what can you see?

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    Given the length and width , the large sett ... and that it was joined in an " offset " manner , could this fabric have been a " great kilt " ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGumerait View Post
    Given the length and width , the large sett ... and that it was joined in an " offset " manner , could this fabric have been a " great kilt " ?
    The simple answer to that or course is that we will never know. It could have been but 40 inches is a tad narrow for a belted plaid and I'm inclined to think it was used differently.

    Here's the techy bit.....

    • Hand spun and hand woven at 52 epi.

    • 20” single width offset with 2 half setts plus G16 R6 G4 R92 plus a 4 band herringbone selvedge mark.

    • Naturally dyed: cochineal (red), indigo (blue), plus indigo and an unidentified yellow (green).

    • The piece is the remnant of a larger plaid.

    • The yarn used to initial and date the cloth differs from that of the actual plaid and indicates that the personalisation was done later than the weaving; i.e. the cloth is older than 1785. I suspect that the skilful overlocking at the fringed ends was done at the same time as the initials and date were added.

    • The initials JS probably refer to the owner of the plaid in 1785. Generally initials were feminine and such pieces were done to mark a special occasion. These were often dowry pieces done by a women for their marriage and was something special that they brought to the new home.
    Last edited by figheadair; 16th March 16 at 06:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    The simple answer to that or course is that we will never know. It could have been but 40 inches is a tad narrow for a betled plaid and I'm inclined to think it was used differently.

    Here's the techy bit.....

    • Hand spun and hand woven at 52 epi.

    • 20” single width offset with 2 half setts plus G16 R6 G4 R92 plus a 4 band herringbone selvedge mark.

    • Naturally dyed: cochineal (red), indigo (blue), plus indigo and an unidentified yellow (green).

    • The piece is the remnant of a larger plaid.

    • The yarn used to initial and date the cloth differs from that of the actual plaid and indicates that the personalisation was done later than the weaving; i.e. the cloth is older than 1785. I suspect that the skilful overlocking at the fringed ends was done at the same time as the initials and date were added.

    • The initials JS probably refer to the owner of the plaid in 1785. Generally initials were feminine and such pieces were done to mark a special occasion. These were often dowry pieces done by a women for their marriage and was something special that they brought to the new home.
    Peter, based on your comments above (that the initials are feminine and the piece is a remnant of a larger plaid) and based on the cloth's size, I'm going to guess that the piece was presented as a woman's tartan screen (or shawl), since the 1780's is probably too late for it to have been worn as an airisaid. Another guess would be that the piece could have been a bed-hanging.

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