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View Poll Results: Does this Hawaiian shirt work with the XMTS tartan?

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  • The Hawaiian shirt and the tartan kilt work!

    26 38.24%
  • The Hawaiian shirt and the tartan kilt do not work!

    18 26.47%
  • It is acceptable, but not my cup of tea

    12 17.65%
  • It should't work, but it does...hmmmm

    12 17.65%
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    You know . . .

    On Jamie it pretty well works because... because Jamie is Panache, has panache, flaunts it, and flaunts it well. I like him and I like to watch his marvellously creative and unsual adventures because he pulls it off in ways that nobody else can. He's a fabulous role model in terms of confidence, and sometimes, in fact usually, in terms of kilt-wearing. That's what makes it acceptable to me at least when he takes a tangent for fun.

    That's why I voted "yes" - not because I recommend the look for others. Anybody else is probably wisest to wear a normal traditional kilt and wear it in the normal way with normal accessories. (And I don't want to get into a nit-picky fight over what "normal traditional" means - we've done that elsewhere and you all know what I mean by it if you don't get silly by picking the words apart one letter and one stitch at a time.)

    Jamie is... . . . . . . . unique, and particularly loveable for that reason. It doesn't mean that anybody else should rush out and try his personal signature style. It doesn't always work on others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    You know . . .

    On Jamie it pretty well works because... because Jamie is Panache, has panache, flaunts it, and flaunts it well. I like him and I like to watch his marvellously creative and unsual adventures because he pulls it off in ways that nobody else can. He's a fabulous role model in terms of confidence, and sometimes, in fact usually, in terms of kilt-wearing. That's what makes it acceptable to me at least when he takes a tangent for fun.

    That's why I voted "yes" - not because I recommend the look for others. Anybody else is probably wisest to wear a normal traditional kilt and wear it in the normal way with normal accessories. (And I don't want to get into a nit-picky fight over what "normal traditional" means - we've done that elsewhere and you all know what I mean by it if you don't get silly by picking the words apart one letter and one stitch at a time.)

    Jamie is... . . . . . . . unique, and particularly loveable for that reason. It doesn't mean that anybody else should rush out and try his personal signature style. It doesn't always work on others.
    I voted "no" for exactly the same reasons. As I said earlier, XMarkers like
    Jamie and Ron can do things that the rest of us should never attempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    You know . . .

    On Jamie it pretty well works because... because Jamie is Panache, has panache, flaunts it, and flaunts it well. I like him and I like to watch his marvellously creative and unsual adventures because he pulls it off in ways that nobody else can. He's a fabulous role model in terms of confidence, and sometimes, in fact usually, in terms of kilt-wearing. That's what makes it acceptable to me at least when he takes a tangent for fun.

    That's why I voted "yes" - not because I recommend the look for others. Anybody else is probably wisest to wear a normal traditional kilt and wear it in the normal way with normal accessories. (And I don't want to get into a nit-picky fight over what "normal traditional" means - we've done that elsewhere and you all know what I mean by it if you don't get silly by picking the words apart one letter and one stitch at a time.)

    Jamie is... . . . . . . . unique, and particularly loveable for that reason. It doesn't mean that anybody else should rush out and try his personal signature style. It doesn't always work on others.
    I voted 'It shouldn't, but for some reason it does (in this case)' for exactly the reasons FB stated. This works for Jamie. He is unique. It would not work for me and I can't picture anyone else on whom it would work, either. The kilt comes from a very special culture; so does the Hawaiian shirt. I don't see them mixing well.

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    Thanks Padre and Rex

    Gents,

    I thank you for the kind words, but the truth is that confidence is the most important thing anyone who dons the kilt can wear with it. There are all manner of outfits I have seen on XMTS over the years where I have thought "I couldn't pull that off, but it looks great on him".

    If an outfit doesn't work for you, it is unlikely to work for most people
    If an outfit works for you, it is likely your confidence will help carry the outfit

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    Ain't nothin' more comfy than an Aloha shirt and a kilt.
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    Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverkilt View Post
    Ain't nothin' more comfy than an Aloha shirt and a kilt.
    I stand by my comments....
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    well, that comes from poor judgement."
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    The thing to keep in mind, it seems to me, is that, at least as far back as we have fairly reliable imagery, Highland Dress has never been "pure".

    The constants have been the "Scotch bonnet", the kilt, the sporran, the hose.

    The rest has always followed, entirely or nearly so, the current prevailing fashions in England and Europe.

    So our early images show Highland Dress with slashed doublets such as would look not out of place in France, England, Italy, or Germany.

    In the late 18th century it's the coat with turnbacks and a neck-cloth just as was worn elsewhere, the only accommodation being that the coat-tails were shortened.

    Ditto the mid to late 19th century with the ordinary suit jacket/sack coat, fine black cloth or tweed, shortened for the kilt but otherwise the prevailing fashion as to cut, lapels, etc.

    In the early 20th century the Prince Charlie came in which except for the details is an ordinary European tailcoat.

    In the Army it was usually the same, with the prevailing jacket design being altered if needs be for the kilt. The coatee worn c1800-1855 and Battledress were short already and were worn without modification by Highland troops.

    Given this history, it seems to be only the natural course of things that what's above the waist will continue to follow prevailing fashions outwith the Highlands, as it always has done.
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    Purely personal opinion, your mileage my vary but...

    Doesn't work for me, either as a "kilted Hawaiian" or a "Hawaiian Scot", sorry. Perhaps a tartan sarong would work...?

    And again, purely personal opinion, the hat goes with neither, more a '40s jungle movie style - but then I'm not a hat person.

    That said, I see the majority disagrees, perhaps because I'm chasing around as many summers as Jock !
    Regards, Sav.

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    Bob C wrote: “No. The hat does not work, either.”

    This reminds me of a comment made to me on Facebook last year. I was accused of betraying the tradition of kilt-wearing and told I had no right to wear one.
    I then explained that I owned two kilts and intended to order a third one, and that I wore a tammie out of doors all the time. I also mentioned that I had worn a kilt in the army and was of Scottish extraction.
    But, I said, I also had a broad-brimmed straw hat that I would wear in very hot weather.
    The chap then again told me that I was selling out on the tradition.
    But what I recalled from X Marks was a picture of two of our respected members at a Scottish event in one of the more southerly US states, where they were both kilted, and sported broad-brimmed hats.
    They contended, and I agreed fully, that given the high temperature and humidity of the day, that they needed the protection the hats provided.
    So I stand by Jamie’s choice of headgear, as it is appropriate to the climate and weather of the day.
    He wears bonnets often enough (as do I), and the hat is reserved for more tropical occasions.
    Bear in mind also that during the Boer War the Highland regiments wore slouch hats with their kilts.
    I have in fact been without my straw hat for well over a year, because I had requested a neighbour to sew a South African flag badge onto it. (She is a bit of a procrastinator.)
    But for the past week now, my hat has hung in my passageway complete with flag badge, ready for duty in the high summer days (which, sadly, are mostly past for the next six months).
    Regards,
    Mike
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    Aloha shirt

    I voted ..should not work but does..
    I started wearing kilts in the traditional style because of the collected semiformal presentation.. influenced by a mildly inaccurate understanding of the garment and the concept that it was actually daily wear.

    After i joined the rabble I gained a better understanding and was able to move out of the costume crowd. I was also introduced to the idea of the tartan army with loose socks no flashes and tee shirts...hmmm. I now wear my kilt on Fridays at work and in the informal style as i run between grills cooking for family & friends. My sin is that because I have a blue shirt / khaki trouser back ground, I have a hard time wearing tattersall / checked shirts and tartan even though this is traditional dress. I admit that I cross then line away from traditional as I wear button down collar shirts and a broad brim hat in the summer.. so far only pleasant remarks and reviews as from the ladies & gentlemen while I am out on the street.

    As Aloha shirts go this "conservative" print and kilt are great party wear and certainly contemporay American kilt style.
    On a day to day basis a i believe this shirt would get more wear with a solid kilt.

    ... I believe from a previous thread that a nice lady at your church advised you against aloha shirts & tartan... see if this combination changes her mind.

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