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13th July 16, 08:45 AM
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 Originally Posted by NPG
I'm not aware of a Scottish Hughes, but that doesn't mean that they didn't exist.
I have a Duncan Hughes, christened at Kirkton of Kingoldrum in 1750. Family was apparently well established there,
though hard to find a lot before then. I've been told repeatedly that at that time and location, he would have been clan Ogilvie. Clan Ogilvie folk seem to concur unanimously.
I have a line of MacCabes that arrived in Ireland as galloglaich for the O'Reilly and O'Rourke kings, provided by the their
chief, a MacLeod. They stayed so long their clan seat was in County Cavan, and they came to be regarded as native Irish.
There is a section of Galway and Mayo called Joyce Country because the younger son of a Norman knight who held a
castle in Wales was by Norman custom not inheriting anything, it being destined for the oldest son. His father made a match for him with a daughter of the Prince of Thomond, and his arrival in Limerick was noteworthy due to the size of his fleet. Upon realizing his bride would not be inheriting much either, he proceeded to establish himself as lord of much of Galway and Mayo. 700 years later, Joyces are regarded as native Irish.
The Fitz patronymic arrived in Ireland with the attempt by Henry II to pacify the Irish for the Pope, to gain a grant of
favor from said notary. Upset by the education of European Catholics by well-read Irish priests newly reaching out and establishing abbeys on the continent, the Pope was worried that education would erode the power of the Church. He asked Henry to go over and make the Irish behave, as they weren't obeying his cease and desist orders. Henry found it
convenient, as his youngest son (Evil Prince John of Robin Hood and the Magna Carta) had no holdings, leading to his being known as John Lackland. His (Henry's) efforts were not overly successful, gaining only a toehold which was walled with a palisade to prevent predation by those savage Irish. Those wild men were described as living "beyond the pale". Thereby the idiom. And the locals hated John so much he left in fear of his life. Later attempts by English kings to complete the conquest were met by the Normans as well as the Irish with the complaint that "you have no right to OUR country". FitzGeralds, FitzPatricks, FitzHughs, etc., are now 800 years later native Irish.
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