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16th October 16, 03:02 PM
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Sounds like an ideal kilt hose color!
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16th October 16, 04:36 PM
#32
 Originally Posted by GrainReaper
I've always been baffled by some color names, this goes all the way back to my crayon coloring days, being color blind makes it a challenge to decipher why a crayon color would be called "burnt sienna" or what have you, (gets worse when labels get peeled off, this lead to a brown colored valentine for my mom), this color blind issue lead me to highland wear as a clothing solution as things don't have to match per day, so now with hose I just reach in my drawer and grab a pair and hope they match...... each other!
I'm reminded of when my prom date told me she was wearing a "teal" dress, and to match that. I still don't know exactly what teal is, nor taupe, nor does it seem that many color sighted people can agree on those terms.
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16th October 16, 05:15 PM
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Last edited by OC Richard; 16th October 16 at 05:36 PM.
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16th October 16, 08:45 PM
#34
OCR.
Things are complicated even more with international colour terminology. As an example, "our" European teal(the bird) does not look anything like your North American one.In consequence, blue does not spring readily to mind when the colour "teal" is mentioned here.
Again. We in the UK would not recognise the word "taupe" as a word describing the animal, a mole(think "Wind in the Willows") particularly as "our" moles are black, with perhaps a tiny wee hint of grey.Taupe is not a colour description that I have ever come across here either, but that might just be me? I have seen more than a few moles in my time and thus far I have never seen a brown one. International terminology is a minefield!
Last edited by Jock Scot; 16th October 16 at 09:49 PM.
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17th October 16, 02:35 AM
#35
Ah Jock you don't remember Maureen Lipman playing Bettie in the BT (British Telecom) adverts?
British Telecom (7)
Beattie’s husband is reluctantly trying on the half-finished jumper she’s knitting for him. The phone rings.
Beattie (to husband): That’ll be the phone – don’t move!
Beattie: Hello.
Melvyn: Mum! It’s Melvyn – I’m wearing it now! It’s great!
Beattie: And what do you think of the turtle neck? I’m making one for your father … but … er … I don’t think he’s got the neck for it.
Melvyn: The neck’s fine!
Beattie: And the colour?
Melvyn: Camel – I like camel!
Beattie: It’s taupe! They call it taupe!
Melvyn: OK – so I like taupe!
Beattie:But you’d have preferred the camel …
Melvyn: Mu-um – I love it! It’s terrific!
Beattie: Oh but what about the motif? Your brother has a motif – you ask your Anthony – he’s with it.
Melvyn: It’s all fine! I love it! I’m ecstatic! I’m over the moon!
Beattie: So you like it – you’re pleased? Oh good-bye bye.
Beattie (to her husband): He doesn’t like it.
Voiceover: Phone and say thank you: it’s always appreciated.
Beattie (to husband): He will like it – it’ll grow on him …when he gets the matching socks – the whole ensemble.
Voiceover: British Telecom: it’s you we answer to.
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give"
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill
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17th October 16, 04:31 AM
#36
Seems we'd all be better off if we stuck to "greyish-brown" rather than "taupe", except for the designers that is! Of course, if one must have "petrel" socks, perhaps it matters not what actual color they are.
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17th October 16, 05:14 AM
#37
Colour deficiencies add to the problem
I have a red/green colour deficiency in my sight. Oh, I can see reds and greens, just not all of them, which tends to confuse people. (You can see that one, why can't you see this one.) Most people think you're either colour blind or you're not. Wrong! To me, traffic lights in my province are red, yellow and ...pretty well white. I just watch the long row of lights out of the corner of my eye as I drive until one of them turns yellow. If it's red, I can see it just fine.
The result of this deficiencey is that as a child I was corrected on colours so often, that I think I learned to pay no attention to them. I described things by size, shape, location - anything but colour because I was likely to have my hands slapped verbally for being "silly" or "stupid" or whatever. People couldn't figure out that I had a partial colour deficiency. I was a classroom teacher in my thirties before on a whim, I asked the school nurse to test me and identified the issue and by then my habits were set. I prefer to stick to black, white, primary and secondary colours with no shades because I can identify them until I get into shadings. My wife drives me nuts when she's trying to get me to describe colours.
Our son on the other hand, apparently has both perfect colour vision and absolute colour memory - both rare, and both useful in his career as an engineer and in his hobby as an artist. At age eight, I was building a model railroad layout for him. I painted the background a neutral beigy, muddy, greyish, in-between unidentifiable colour so that if the fake grass or anything else rubbed off, it wouldn't show much. I ran out of paint, so we went to the paint store - one of those places where they have forty-gazillion colour "chips" sticking out of racks on a huge wall. As we walked in the front door with the paint colour formula in my hand, my eight-year-old pointed and said, "It's that one, Daddy." The sales clerks all snickered and giggled until I compared the numbers. He was right on the mark. Scared the bejeebers out of me and them too!
What I'm saying through all this, is that whatever people call a colour, there are some folks out there who will see something else. One of the puzzles of philosophy is that none of us truly knows what somebody else sees when they look at the same thing. I have trouble seeing the difference between shades of green and brown, and between metallics. As a classroom teacher of 9 - 12 year olds, I taught my class to simply correct me if I was wrong, and they thought that was funny and delightful, and so did I since I trusted them implicitly. ("Take the blue page..." ... "Purple, Mr. White." ... "Okay, take the purple page....") I am always appreciative when somebody says something like, "It's dark orange." I know what that is.
What is "plumage-ochre"? What is "aubergine"? Darned if I know, or ever will. I can't see those things, and neither can a lot of other people since red/green deficiency in the male human is the world's most common form of colour-blindness. I guess it means that I'm not alone in this ten-toned world. "Dark red?" I know what that is!
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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17th October 16, 06:31 AM
#38
OCR....
Glad to see you've learned how to spell "colour"...
"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
well, that comes from poor judgement."
A. A. Milne
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17th October 16, 08:48 PM
#39
 Originally Posted by The Q
Ah Jock you don't remember Maureen Lipman playing Bettie in the BT (British Telecom) adverts?
British Telecom (7)
Beattie’s husband is reluctantly trying on the half-finished jumper she’s knitting for him. The phone rings.
Beattie (to husband): That’ll be the phone – don’t move!
Beattie: Hello.
Melvyn: Mum! It’s Melvyn – I’m wearing it now! It’s great!
Beattie: And what do you think of the turtle neck? I’m making one for your father … but … er … I don’t think he’s got the neck for it.
Melvyn: The neck’s fine!
Beattie: And the colour?
Melvyn: Camel – I like camel!
Beattie: It’s taupe! They call it taupe!
Melvyn: OK – so I like taupe!
Beattie:But you’d have preferred the camel …
Melvyn: Mu-um – I love it! It’s terrific!
Beattie: Oh but what about the motif? Your brother has a motif – you ask your Anthony – he’s with it.
Melvyn: It’s all fine! I love it! I’m ecstatic! I’m over the moon!
Beattie: So you like it – you’re pleased? Oh good-bye bye.
Beattie (to her husband): He doesn’t like it.
Voiceover: Phone and say thank you: it’s always appreciated.
Beattie (to husband): He will like it – it’ll grow on him …when he gets the matching socks – the whole ensemble.
Voiceover: British Telecom: it’s you we answer to.
I have to confess that I have no idea who Maureen Lipman is.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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17th October 16, 11:03 PM
#40
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give"
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill
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