Glengarry Questions

[Tarheel]

I just had to mention this: When I was in the military in the 70's, that "Garrison" cap had another less family-oriented name that I still chuckle about, but I never repeat that name.

Same time of service (70's) same nick name for the cap. It takes gall and confidence to don a cap with "that" stigma and look good doing so.

[dcommini]

Same time of service (70's) same nick name for the cap. It takes gall and confidence to don a cap with "that" stigma and look good doing so.

I came in shortly after the started issuing the berets to everybody, but having family that had been in, and due to wearing one in the CAP, I know the unofficial nomenclature of which you speak

[jumper]

I came in shortly after the started issuing the berets to everybody, but having family that had been in, and due to wearing one in the CAP, I know the unofficial nomenclature of which you speak

I went in '04 and I still have my *** cap that I wore in ROTC prior to going in. My father being SF would give me a hard time every time I wore it.

[dcommini]

I went in '04 and I still have my *** cap that I wore in ROTC prior to going in. My father being SF would give me a hard time every time I wore it.

Now the SF and others give us a hard time because we stole the black beret from the Rangers.

[blackwatch70]

The Black Watch wear glengarrys, have been since the First World War. They still wear their blue balmorals with certain dress, but the pipes and drums wear glengarrys when not wearing full dress as the standard headdress.

As far as I remember the british 42nd Regiment (Black Watch) started to wear glengarry about 1860s , these caps replaced plain kilmarnock bonnets as undress caps.

42nd 1871-73.jpg

BW Dartmoor 1871 .jpg

pictures above are from 1870s

[48HofC]

Black watch 70, in your original post you wrote all pipers in highland regiments wore the plain blue glengarry "excluding the black watch",,,, excluding means- apart from.....you can't wear the same and be excluded..

[Taskr]

Now the SF and others give us a hard time because we stole the black beret from the Rangers.

You mean the UK and commonwealth Armour Corps. Approval for wear in 1924

But the OP is talking glengarry, which the garrison/flight/wedge/field service cap is not. Similar, but not.

[imrichmond]

Anne Gilmour wrote a pattern for knitting and fulling Balmoral bonnets by reverse-engineering her father's WWII Canadian Forces bonnet. Mrs. Gilmour said that the loose ribbons indicated a single man, while a bow showed that the wearer was married.

Relying on Mrs. Gilmour's statement, when I made my husband's Balmoral, I tied the ribbons into a bow and sewed it down.

On the other hand, my Scottish father, who was married to my mother for 63 years until her death, always wore his balmoral with the ribbons dangling loose. I don't recall that this practice encouraged female admirers, even Scottish ones, but perhaps it was my father's stern Scottish demeanor that kept them at bay.

[dcommini]

You mean the UK and commonwealth Armour Corps. Approval for wear in 1924

But the OP is talking glengarry, which the garrison/flight/wedge/field service cap is not. Similar, but not.

Well, we stole the berets in general from the UK, and made them look terrible

[48HofC]

The beret has evolved when the glengarry hasn't. The Canadian military went to little ones that don't even have enough material to fold down the side, barely makes it to the band. British seem to be heading same direction. MOD tam o shatters have already been shrunk. The US still make them so they can be shaped well.