Is it ok...

**javankrona** · 24th February 17, 12:20 PM

I have often worn just a vest with my kilt, just last evening in fact. This was my black Argyll. I have also worn just a simple sweater vest while kilted and got nothing but compliments.

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**Crawdaddyjc** · 24th February 17, 01:51 PM

LKM- good to know that it is acceptable. I doubt anyone would mistake me for a piper. I dont know the first thing about them!
Hirsty- the black hose goes well with the BW but seems too darken the total outfit too much and would be very appropriate at a somber occasion.
But if going for a modern appearance i can see how the dark palette would be fitting. The bottle green looks the best in my eye.
Javankrona- perfect! Thank you! Just what i was looking for!

**The Wizard of BC** · 24th February 17, 02:16 PM

I find it really interesting the differences in perceptions.

When I was growing up the fabric known as Tweed as always worn as informal day or country wear. It was not suitable for business or after 6pm.
It was the unofficial uniform of college professors, (think Professor Indiana Jones) and the gentry elite while shooting on their lands to show that they were "at their leisure" and not in "the city".

This way of thinking is the same as presented in "A History of Tweed".

"Tweeds are an icon of traditional Irish and British country clothing, being desirable for informal outerwear, due to the material being moisture-resistant and durable. Tweeds are made to withstand harsh climate and are commonly worn for outdoor activities such as shooting and hunting, in both Ireland and the United Kingdom."

"Tweed carries with it a certain kind of low-key sophistication. In pop culture, for example, we have all seen how tweed subtly but unmistakably underscores the cultured elegance of The Lord, The Gentleman, The College Professor and The New York Intellectual. It introduces his character before he says a word."

I have always used jackets made from Tweed in the exact same way that I would wear a Sport Coat.
In fact I made this jacket from the pattern of a Sport Coat and modified it for a kilt.

**Crawdaddyjc** · 24th February 17, 06:21 PM

Steve- thank you for your response. Indiana jones! Thats awesome!
A history of tweed sounds like an interesting read. I googled and read some interesting info about tweed.
I like the idea of being able to wear a tweed waistcoat with a tie and being casual. I also like the idea of wearing like your picture with the jacket without the waistcoat as a different level of casual. Putting the two together (in my mind) bumps up the level of dressiness equal to anything where a suit would be worn. Im sure that actually when one would wear an Argyll or Argyll and vest combo.
I know i could be completely wrong in the way i am thinking but i am glad that everyone has responded to my thread. As a noob- the best way to learn is ask and read read read. But sometimes the more i read- the more confused i get! Lol
I hope to soon be able to get proper measurements and purchase a nice tweed jacket and possibly an Argyll jacket and vest for the dressier occasions that i will attend. The dressiest occasions that i can think of would be attending the theatre, weddings, or business meeting where awards night would be a nice suit and tie. (But i would rent a PC for that).
The last award banquet i attended i wore a 3 piece double breasted suit.

Thanks again everyone!

**The Wizard of BC** · 24th February 17, 08:52 PM

The Prince Charlie coatee is the kilt equivalent of the Tuxedo. It has satin lapels. So keep the PC for those events where you would wear a tux. Black Tie only and the last Black Tie event I attended was 5 years ago.

**Crawdaddyjc** · 25th February 17, 03:24 PM

I dont think i have ever been to a black tie ever and i doubt i ever will.

I have been to the Fox Theatre in Atlanta with the wife for a couple of shows (Ballet or other type productions) and that is the most i expect anymore. Even that is not tux level events. Suits and ties, jackets and slacks, some in jeans and button up shirts. So maybe an Argyll is something to invest in as well- after i get my tweed jacket.

I know this thread started off about being able to go out and be ok in just a vest. In keeping with that topic- i went shirt shopping today for a tattersall type shirt that would complement the Black Watch but couldnt find what i wanted. Anyone have any suggestions? Colorwise? I found one that had blue and green lines but i wasnt sold on it. Maybe i will stick with my solid white. Who knows.

I did dig out my pocketwatch today- and it looked sharp on the vest!

**Steve Ashton** · 25th February 17, 03:32 PM

Real Tattersall is not very common any more in N. America. You can find it but you have to look and it will usually be one of the pretty expensive custom shirt places.

**Taskr** · 25th February 17, 04:05 PM

I found a couple of shirts in Costco, of all places, that look pretty good with the kilt. Not tattersall, but very good quality and not just simply 'flat' cloth.

**Crawdaddyjc** · 25th February 17, 04:28 PM

I knew i wouldnt find real tattersall but something in that "line".
I saw a few like this: http://www.josbank.com/1905-collecti...ll-dress-shirt

But i didnt have the kilt with me to see how they fit and appeared. I want something to complement and not clash. Anyway. I ne er thought about costco. Thanks for the idea!