Veterans, sams etc.

**carlisle401** · 3rd April 17, 01:26 PM

This has been posted earlier, I didn't see it until now, so if you feel it is now right, please remove.

Last year there was a question about wearing kilts and medals with Military attire. The posting developed into discussing SAMS and their dress. There was also a question about when to wear medals.

I am a member of SAMS in Phoenix, AZ and I am the Color guard Commander for the Post. I served in the Royal Scots (The Royal Regiment) British Army. Yes there are differences between US and UK drill, but it is not a big problem.

Wearing of medals (UK), that covers Scotland, when a civilian. only issued medals to be worn with jacket on the left side. Relative medals can be worn on the right side. Appropriate times are Remembrance Sunday, Forces days and Battle memorial days parades.

Black Tie dress, miniature medals worn over left side breast.

Now for SAMS. SAMS does not have dress regulations, they have a dress code. big difference. This dress code is under review.
It is not mandatory to wear kilts, trews are accepted as they have an important history with Scottish Regiments.
SAMS is a Veterans organization and is non profit. I wear my Regimental Uniform for formal events such as Color Guards and Remembrance Tables. For non formal events I wear one of my kilts.
As regards ribbons, being a British Vet I have two ribbons, there is big difference between UK and US. I know what I had to do to earn them and I don't have a problem with that.

SAMS have a cap of 2.5% of members can be Veterans of UK and Commonwealth countries.13029419_10153470586807111_208505002238246906_o (1).jpg

**ItchyTick** · 4th April 17, 12:16 PM

Hi fellow SAMS member.

**carlisle401** · 4th April 17, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by ItchyTick

Hi fellow SAMS member.

Hi SAMS Brother!

**kiltimabar** · 4th April 17, 10:52 PM

Myself as well. I believe there are quite a few SAMS members on this forum.

**Geoff Withnell** · 5th April 17, 04:43 AM

If you click on "Community" on the toolbar above, and then "Groups" you will find the SAMS group here on XMarks, which has 56 members.

**carlisle401** · 5th April 17, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Geoff Withnell

If you click on "Community" on the toolbar above, and then "Groups" you will find the SAMS group here on XMarks, which has 56 members.

Many Thanks Geoff.

**GrymJack** · 6th April 17, 05:18 AM

Greeting Brother! There are several other members in this area (note that in Texas the local area can be quite large) and as far as I see, the wear of the SAMS is pretty much at parades, recruiting at gatherings and the Burns Dinner. When just out and about I would not wear the ribbons or appurtenances.

**carlisle401** · 6th April 17, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by GrymJack

Greeting Brother! There are several other members in this area (note that in Texas the local area can be quite large) and as far as I see, the wear of the SAMS is pretty much at parades, recruiting at gatherings and the Burns Dinner. When just out and about I would not wear the ribbons or appurtenances.

Greetings my Brother,

For "casual wear" for SAMS duties, like serving breakfast or lunch to the Vets at the VA State Home here in Phoenix, we wear our kilts and our tennis shirts with the SAMS logo on it and Post 48. We have red shirts as well for Fridays with the logo " Scottish American Military Society Post 48 Supports our Troops".
Otherwise for " ceremonial occasions" I wear my Trews and Black Cock Feather as this was part of my Regimental Dress in the Royal Scots". The other guys wear kilts, spats etc.
Take care.

**CollinMacD** · 10th April 17, 06:24 AM

Very recently I was "Piped In", as a member of the St. Andrews Society. I dress per the Black Tie occasion following the dress to the letter. The only question was wearing my miniature medals or not. I decided not too, and it was a big mistake, as ALL the military veterans in attendance wore there medals. I felt bad, almost ashamed, that I did not wear mine, as I was trying to be conservative. So next event I will wear my miniatures as I am a very proud Veteran, who earned the medals, they were not given to me. Someday I plan to join SAMS. Just wanted to share this as a Viet Nam vet, who still fosters this feeling of being a Viet Nam vet, we still suffer this feeling of being a Viet Nam veteran, those who served know what I am talking about, we think twice before we display our affiliation of serving in such an unpopular war...I am a proud Veteran of Viet Nam.....but careful because of the environment we live in.

**carlisle401** · 10th April 17, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by CollinMacD

Very recently I was "Piped In", as a member of the St. Andrews Society. I dress per the Black Tie occasion following the dress to the letter. The only question was wearing my miniature medals or not. I decided not too, and it was a big mistake, as ALL the military veterans in attendance wore there medals. I felt bad, almost ashamed, that I did not wear mine, as I was trying to be conservative. So next event I will wear my miniatures as I am a very proud Veteran, who earned the medals, they were not given to me. Someday I plan to join SAMS. Just wanted to share this as a Viet Nam vet, who still fosters this feeling of being a Viet Nam vet, we still suffer this feeling of being a Viet Nam veteran, those who served know what I am talking about, we think twice before we display our affiliation of serving in such an unpopular war...I am a proud Veteran of Viet Nam.....but careful because of the environment we live in.

Alan,

Thank you for your Service. Yes, it is standard to wear your miniature medals for Black tie. Hope you join SAMS, I'm sure you will enjoy it. In my Post we have quite a few Vietnam Vets. We are all Brothers and Sisters.