Art of Conflict

[CamelCody]

Hi,
I posted this in the history and heritage forum as it's a subject that relates to the history and heritage of all celts/gaels. I recently watched a documentary on Netflix called 'Art of Conflict' narrated by Vince Vaughan. The film documents the mural art of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. I found it interesting and provocative.
Now, from my understanding of history, and correct me if I'm wrong, the majority of people that were sent to the ulster plantations were lowland scots, or disaffected scots in general. The point is they weren't English. Given the treatment of the scots by the English, where along the way did ulstermen develope an affinity for the U.K.
Now, I understand it has a lot to do with religion. But I really feel that if all celts saw all celts as family this problem would be somewhat resolved. Anyway, that was kind of a rant, and I know the issues go deeper than I can explain. But if you have Netflix and have the time, whatch 'Art of Conflict' it's quite interesting.

[The Q]

The plantation of Scots into Ireland began before the unification of Scotland and England. It was continued under the house of Stewart / Stuarts control of the entire British isles up to and including unification of Scotland with England. They not surprisingly transplanted the supporters of the crown. The plantations were all but complete by the time of the end of the house of Stuart.

Your comment of " treatment of the Scots by the English " also show a missed point of understanding. The Scots were not badly treated by the English, the plantations were for the most part after unification of the crowns but before unification of parliament's.
Scots MPs sit in the United Kingdom Parliament and have done since the unification. They would have represented their people should anything have happened since then.

The later Jacobite problems were for the most part in the Highlands, the home of the Gaels not the Scots, most lowland Scots were on the British side .

Most of the transplanted Scots were Presbyterian English speaking protestants, and not unexpectedly were seen as the enemies of the Catholic Gaelic speaking irish. The Highland Gaels of course were seen as equal enemies with the Irish Gaels against the lowland Scots / plantation Scots.
Therefore the northern Irish Scottish Descendant protestants support the British protestant crown.

[Jock Scot]

Different times, different rules. Many fail to understand how beastly the Scots were to each other over the last 1000 years. It is to their everlasting credit that Scotland has been able, in the last couple of centuries, to deal with their own pretty grim history and live in reasonable harmony with each other. These days, sadly, the Scots and some in the New World's tendency to blame the English (they are not totally blameless, on occasion) for everything that had and even still, has gone awry here is not wholly helpful, or wholly true.

[John_Carrick]

The "problem" is entrenched in one sense in that yes there are two distinct communities in Northern Ireland. However apart from the politicians here who are forever making a haimes of running the place, people live and work together very happily and peacefully much like anywhere else. It is very beautiful here, and well worth a visit and you will not meet kinder, friendlier people anywhere, wherever you go.
Ulster Scots identity is not exclusively Protestant and there is a growing sense here of how much shared history there is, such as revealed by the current debate here about the Irish language and how it belongs to everyone.
The strongest opinions, places of tension and occasional conflict are to be found in the most economically deprived sections of society and economic development, good education and the development of employment skills are crucial to keeping things moving forwards.

[CamelCody]

Insightful comments all, I can see I missed the point on a couple of issues.
Anyway, if you get the chance to see the documentary do so, the art itself is fascinating. Thanks for everyone's input