Neck tie length with kilt

[Steve Ashton]

The only thing I have found from experience is that you can use solid colors, you can use stripes, you can use a small ,different or same color, pattern. But the only thing I have found that does not seem to work is paisley.

And of course we don't usually wear a Tartan tie with a Tartan kilt.

[Macdonde]

Interesting topic of conversation. I agree with the "widest part at the top of the belt" consensus. However, since I usually wear bow ties regardless of the formality of the occasion, I realized
I hadn't given this much thought before!

[Just Hugh]

When I do wear a four-in-hand rather than a bowtie, I usually wear a vest.

For that reason, I don't want the tie to extend down to the belt, since that would be below the vest's lower edge.

When I wear a long tie, I tie a windsor knot (the double windsor will work as well for men who are short waisted) to shorten it to end at the top of the upper edge of my lower garment: either kilt or pants. The main reason is to prevent it peeking out from under a vest or waist coat.

I feel that it is a good habit to tie a windsor or four-in-hand this way as a habit for this situation. Both an overly long tie and an overly short tie will look awkward, but one that ends at the top of the waist is controversial to only the truly persnickety.

[Tobus]

When I wear a long tie, I tie a windsor knot (the double windsor will work as well for men who are short waisted) to shorten it to end at the top of the upper edge of my lower garment: either kilt or pants. The main reason is to prevent it peeking out from under a vest or waist coat.

If I'm wearing a waistcoat, I don't worry about tie length. I just tuck the end of the tie into the top of my kilt. That way, it will never peek out from the bottom of the waistcoat, and I can use whatever knot I like.

When wearing a tie without a waistcoat, I usually aim for it to hang about 1" below the top of my belt buckle. I guess that's about the same as the widest part of the tie being at the top of the belt buckle. But if the bottom of my tie is covering my belt buckle, it's too long.

For those of us with short torsos, it's impossible to tie a tie at kilt length without having too much tail hanging below, regardless of the knot we use. So I'll usually fuss with it for a while and then just give up, tucking the long tail into my kilt behind the front visible portion of the tie.

[Moses]

When I do wear a four-in-hand rather than a bowtie, I usually wear a vest.

For that reason, I don't want the tie to extend down to the belt, since that would be below the vest's lower edge.

When I wear a long tie, I tie a windsor knot (the double windsor will work as well for men who are short waisted) to shorten it to end at the top of the upper edge of my lower garment: either kilt or pants. The main reason is to prevent it peeking out from under a vest or waist coat.

I feel that it is a good habit to tie a windsor or four-in-hand this way as a habit for this situation. Both an overly long tie and an overly short tie will look awkward, but one that ends at the top of the waist is controversial to only the truly persnickety.

Thank you. I usually do a Windsor or Four-in-hand knot but with the situation I wasn't sure. I don't have a vest and with the high wait of the kilt and the wide belt and where it all sits left me to wonder if there was something different expected.

[Father Bill]

You know, it's quite easy to tie the knot you like to get the length you like, and if the thinner, "back" portion of the tie is too long, to tick it between the buttons of your shirt, thus leaving only the front at the desired length with no problem.

[Moses]

You know, it's quite easy to tie the knot you like to get the length you like, and if the thinner, "back" portion of the tie is too long, to tick it between the buttons of your shirt, thus leaving only the front at the desired length with no problem.

Yes thanks, I just intend to do a Windsor - maybe double Windsor and tuck the back if necessary.

Of course all this discussion does is make me long for a nice vest even more

[Tobus]

You know, it's quite easy to tie the knot you like to get the length you like, and if the thinner, "back" portion of the tie is too long, to tick it between the buttons of your shirt, thus leaving only the front at the desired length with no problem.

I've done that on occasion too. I use it as a last resort, because it causes the front part not to lay as flat as I like.

Another option you don't see many people doing outside of the military any more is to just tuck the whole tie (front and back) in between the buttons below the knot. It comes in handy when it's windy outside!

[Just Hugh]

I also have been known to steal/borrow a tie from my 13 year old son when I'm in my kilt because his youth ties are shorter and the width isn't narrower enough for anyone to notice.

If you're buying a tie for a high waisted kilt, a youth size isn't a bad idea.

Here I'm wearing a youth tie and if you enlarge the photo you can see where it falls on the kilt under my snare drum harness. I'm in the middle.

[Famous Willie]

Here is a photo I took of myself earlier tonight using a Saint Andrew Knot. Following the Instructions, it almost came out to where I wanted it, and the smaller part of the tie didn't need to be tucked into the shirt, as it's end is just above the front part of the Tie. With some practice I will have the bottom tip of the Large End of the Tie just touching the Top of the Belt Buckle.

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Here is a photo of the Steps one needs to make to tie the Saint Andrew Knot.

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And here is the Link where I found the instructions..

https://www.realmenrealstyle.com/sai...-necktie-knot/