Oxfords with kilt

[kingandrew]

If ever a post needed pictures, it was this one.

If only I had access to my high school yearbook, I could provide them. But since that was long before digital photography, those photos are not on my laptop in China.

Although at the time, people seemed to think my hair was the most worthy of comment. It was at times compared to a poodle resting on my head

Andrew

[Hirsty]

It is also worth noting that, originally, the Oxford used to be known as the Balmoral and was a variation of the Brogue.

[jesuisprest]

Are we talking proper brogues or are we talking about those dreadful ghillie things? If we are talking proper brogues, then, as we are specifically talking kilt attire, then well polished black brogues will do nicely for almost any occasion, even minor formal evening events. Likewise, so will well polished Oxfords with kilt attire and will do quite nicely for most black tie events . Not all shoes are made the same though and shoes with thick brothel creeper soles, or 4x4 style tread or a general "clumpy look" are best avoided if you want to cut a dash in your kilt around town.

Sorry, I meant brogues as you mean brogues, not ghillies! I would never go anywhere near a pair.

My apologies for neglecting this thread. I tuned out over the weekend and have only just looked at it now

Thanks for all the responses!

Best,
Adam

[carlisle401]

I saw on an earlier post that someone could not get a good shine on their brogues. It was easier with the Oxford shoe.

If you use the military style brogues, ask a Jock Vet for help. They should be shinning like a shilling on a black cloth when finished.

It takes a wee bit of work, but will be worth it.

[Terry Searl]

What is it about Ghillie Brogues that some of you find so offensive?..Is it the long laces? I'm sure you can use shorter ones........is it the visibility of the kilt hose between the eyelets?......If you like the hose above the shoes , why not in the shoes? I'm not trying to be facetious about this, but some of you come on like you have dog crap on your shoes if you were to wear them.......I really am curious why such disparaging remarks are made about them......I look forward to reading the serious replies to my query......Thanx in advance

[carlisle401]

Terry,

For me it is habit, I suppose. Always used to the military brogues, felt more like a normal shoe. Used to brush polishing them while being worn.
Plain and simple.

[figheadair]

What is it about Ghillie Brogues that some of you find so offensive?..Is it the long laces? I'm sure you can use shorter ones........is it the visibility of the kilt hose between the eyelets?......If you like the hose above the shoes , why not in the shoes? I'm not trying to be facetious about this, but some of you come on like you have dog crap on your shoes if you were to wear them.......I really am curious why such disparaging remarks are made about them......I look forward to reading the serious replies to my query......Thanx in advance

It's undoubtedly partially what one has been brought up with. Personally I would not go near a pair of Ghillies Brogues, they just scream White Heather Club which, for those unfamiliar with the term, was a dreadful 1960-70s Andy Stewart show on TV. It was everything that was kitsch about Scotland.

These just make my flesh creep.

So technically this shoe is called "A Ghillied Half Brogue Oxford"

Well you did ask .

[FossilHunter]

What is it about Ghillie Brogues that some of you find so offensive?..Is it the long laces? I'm sure you can use shorter ones........is it the visibility of the kilt hose between the eyelets?......If you like the hose above the shoes , why not in the shoes? I'm not trying to be facetious about this, but some of you come on like you have dog crap on your shoes if you were to wear them.......I really am curious why such disparaging remarks are made about them......I look forward to reading the serious replies to my query......Thanx in advance

I didn't grow up with them and don't really hate them but I will probably never own a pair simply because they seem (to me) to be a pretty silly piece of footwear. I don't see much sense in a pair of specialized (and expensive if you want good ones) shoes that are really only appropriate for kilted formal wear. I have a pair of good quality, black, wingtips that are both practical as footwear and can be worn with a suit or slacks.

[Terry Searl]

It's undoubtedly partially what one has been brought up with. Personally I would not go near a pair of Ghillies Brogues, they just scream White Heather Club which, for those unfamiliar with the term, was a dreadful 1960-70s Andy Stewart show on TV. It was everything that was kitsch about Scotland.

These just make my flesh creep.



Well you did ask .

Thanx for your response.....I still find it peculiar that such a strong feeling is based primarily or even partially on a television show from so long ago.........we never viewed that show on this side of the "pond" as far as I know

[Terry Searl]

I didn't grow up with them and don't really hate them but I will probably never own a pair simply because they seem (to me) to be a pretty silly piece of footwear. I don't see much sense in a pair of specialized (and expensive if you want good ones) shoes that are really only appropriate for kilted formal wear. I have a pair of good quality, black, wingtips that are both practical as footwear and can be worn with a suit or slacks.

Thank-you for a very sensible response......I do believe good quality footwear is very important, after all your feet are the foundation of your body.....My golf shoes have always been in the wing tip style, usually black but sometimes two dark tones' and very comfortable. Golfing at the courses I play is at least a 5 mile walk and with a need for good foot support when striking the ball ....For a while I used an older pair of my wing tip golf shoes, as my dress shoes, (of course I took the spikes out) but I found little stones would collect in the holes where the spikes use to be and made them quite noisy and slippery on certain floors. I do use a pair of capped oxfords as dress shoes now when I am not kilted. I found a pair of very good quality Ghillie Brouges in a thrift shop a while ago for £12.00 and they are extremely comfortable to wear. The inside of the shoes were just like new and the soles had no marks on them at all. When I looked them up on the internet, (from the name I got from the inside of the shoe), They were listed at £150.00 My "go to" dress clothes now is almost always my kilted attire and if I wear my Ghillie Brouges, I don't tie the laces half way up my leg.....so far I have never had a comment either good or bad, made about them.....Thanx again for your sensible response