CLAN TARTANS.

[Rob]

The same people that tell me my socks are not the right colour, or my pin is too low on my kilt are the people that will tell me a solid coloured kilt is not a kilt, or anything less than 6 yards is a skirt.

As Number 6 said, "... I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own."

Bear,

Now there's a point. I don't recall anyone wearing a kilt in the Village. I may have to rectify that by wearing a kilt in Portmeirion (where the series was filmed) sometime.

Rob

[James]

In view of some responses I'd better make it quite clear that I'm not trying to impose anything on anyone.

My sole aim being to say that some do take the tartan/family connection seriously: and their views are as worthy of respect as are those who might wish to choose a kilt on the basis of the tartan alone.

James

[Casey]

James,

I think that you will find that what has happened here happens quite often. Someone asks a question or states an opinion and off we go.

This thread has been a wealth of information, both fact and opinion and this is exactly what this forum is about. (My opinion, of course.)

Love it!!!!

Casey

[Graham]

Amen Casey!

James, as I said, your opinion has the same value as anyone elses and it's welcome here.

I'm keen to know all i can about tartans and the traditions.

[Rob Wright]

Now Lowlanders in kilts -- practically unthinkable in the 16th - 18th century, but nowadays, many Lowland families have their own tartans and see the kilt as a "Scottish" symbol, and not just belonging to the Highlands

During the '15 and the '45 some lowlanders were so taken with the highland garb they adopted it for their wear.

Rob Wright

[macwilkin]

During the '15 and the '45 some lowlanders were so taken with the highland garb they adopted it for their wear.

Rob,

Thanks for making me read my post again; I should have amended it to make less "authoritarian" in stating that "all" Lowlanders would never appear in tartan and/or Highland dress, because as you have correctly pointed out, a number of them did take to it during the two Jacobite rebellions, especially the display of tartan (and the white cockade) as a symbol of their support of the exiled Stuart family.


Cheers,

T.

[Rob Wright]

During the '15 and the '45 some lowlanders were so taken with the highland garb they adopted it for their wear.

Rob,

Thanks for making me read my post again; I should have amended it to make less "authoritarian" in stating that "all" Lowlanders would never appear in tartan and/or Highland dress, because as you have correctly pointed out, a number of them did take to it during the two Jacobite rebellions, especially the display of tartan (and the white cockade) as a symbol of their support of the exiled Stuart family.


Cheers,

T.

Also many lowlanders and English in the borderlands were relieved to learn that the highlanders were not flesh eating monsters
No matter how hard people try there are no absolutes to history or to the wearing of tartan, there are always exceptions, King George IV wore flesh colored tights when he donned his kilt in 1824.


And as always T. your historical posts are most illuminating. 8)

Rob Wright (proud descendent of lowland scots)

[macwilkin]

Also many lowlanders and English in the borderlands were relieved to learn that the highlanders were not flesh eating monsters

The French garrison at Louisbourg on Cape Breton Island in Nova Scotia was told the same thing about
"les savages d' Ecosse".

Todd

who also has some Lowlander and Borderer blood as well! :mrgreen:

[Dreadbelly]

As far as clan tartans go, I am pretty much open to anything... Except Stuart.

Not sure exactly how that would be viewed, a Douglas wearing a Stuart. (Stewart) My understanding is, we Douglases attempted genocide on the clan of Stuart. That sort of thing is of course, very rude to say the least, and I am in no way making light of that issue. There is still a lot of bad blood.

I am not sure how that might be viewed. Some of these things, they get sticky. Once you learn these things, you can't unlearn them. And on occasion they weigh heavy on your shoulders.

[Rob Wright]

Well Doc, the Douglas' didn't have bad relations with all of the Stuart's just most of them . Got along well with James IV, and James VI/I, as well as Charles II. But yea, for the most part, Douglas' and Stuart's didn't get along. Their were terrible things committed by both sides.
As for me, I prefer to keep my reasons for not wearing certain tartans to myself, there is no reason to keep fostering old fueds.

Rob Wright