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25th February 18, 01:45 PM
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Military hair sporran strap colour?
As promised (threatened) in my welcome post from yesterday, I arrive here on the forum as someone new to kilts and with a multitude of questions. I have been spending some time using the search feature on the forum to answer some questions - and the knowledge possessed and shared here is terrific thank you - but I still have some questions. I'll scatter them around the various sub-forums with which they seem to align. Please forgive me if I mis-name/identify anything and I welcome corrections. I'm keen to learn.
I am curious about the correct/appropriate colour for the leather strap for a military hair sporran. I have only seen original WD-marked ones in white/buff, no other colours. Were brown or black straps used? Was it dependent on the regiment? Photos and links to any sources of black-coloured examples welcomed.
Thank you.
MOTN
Last edited by MenOfTheNorth; 25th February 18 at 08:29 PM.
Reason: added info
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25th February 18, 07:25 PM
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Soldiers normally wore buff (blanco'd to white) leathers, belts etc. Pipers wore black leather. A good source for this information is the Victoria War Forms.
http://www.victorianwars.com/
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25th February 18, 11:23 PM
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I’ll leave this here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visi...IV_to_Scotland
But seriously, I mostly see white straps in levee dress (basically full military parade gear, baldrics, and so on). There is a sketch of another artist of George IV wearing the same outfit with a white sporran strap, and I imagine both sources are accurate and that he had a set of leather accessories made up in both colors. I’m not sure if the sporran strap is sometimes a sporran chain in this context, but remember that the chain is a Victorian era invention and not strictly ever necessary.
I personally think you would be just fine with a chain or strap in black or brown depending on the setting and what else you’re wearing. By all means, wear a brown strap with your tweed ensemble and a silver chain for eveningwear.
I would personally avoid white leather in this context for the same reason that I don’t wear spats. They have strong regimental and piping associations.
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26th February 18, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MenOfTheNorth
I am curious about the correct/appropriate colour for the leather strap for a military hair sporran. I have only seen original WD-marked ones in white/buff, no other colours. Were brown or black straps used? Was it dependent on the regiment? Photos and links to any sources of black-coloured examples welcomed.
Thank you.
MOTN
In the British Army colour of hair sporran's strap depends on regimental traditions, and era.
for example, in 20 с the Royal Highlanders (Black Watch), Gordons and A&SH wore white sporran straps, and Seaforth and Camerons wore black ones...
Sometimes it was more complex - Officers and ORs of A&SH wore white and NCOs wore black...
so the best way to know - check regimental pictures and photos.
Brown straps have been worn only with undress sporrans (they also were brown usually) , but of course some regiments had black undress sporrans with black straps...
Pipers sporrans and their straps is also very interesting topic..
Last edited by blackwatch70; 27th February 18 at 01:28 AM.
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26th February 18, 09:27 PM
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5th March 18, 05:04 AM
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5th March 18, 07:59 PM
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Thanks for all this.
It is interesting to see the regimental variation. A bit more digging, with a focus on the Cameron Highlanders, would seem to point to that regiment's use of black sporran straps, at least for O/R sporrans.
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