Awaiting my first tartan kilt!

[OC Richard]

Personally, I would call boots worn with the kilt as a more of historical thing... I don't think boots worn with the kilt could really be described as "traditional" civilian kilt attire.

Yes I agree fully, in line with how I've always defined the term "traditional".

I was using the term loosely. I should, perhaps, been more accurate and said "formerly traditional".

You never know. Things go in and out of fashion in the tradition, which is determined by usage. Perhaps boots are making, or will make, a comeback.

[OC Richard]

Where does historical end and traditional begin?

Jock's point is well taken, because (at least according to my understanding) "traditional" ends when a thing stops being current.

Traditional implies that a thing is currently surviving and living, and goes back through time with an unbroken lineage of evolutionary forms to an unknown origin.

Once a things falls into disuse and becomes exinct it becomes historical.

A revival of a historical thing can happen for sure, but it is that, rather than a continuation of a living tradition.

Since ankle-boots stopped being accepted as "traditional Highland dress" by around 1900 their wearing is indeed historical.

[KiltedSergeant]

Jock's point is well taken, because (at least according to my understanding) "traditional" ends when a thing stops being current.

Traditional implies that a thing is currently surviving and living, and goes back through time with an unbroken lineage of evolutionary forms to an unknown origin.

Once a things falls into disuse and becomes exinct it becomes historical.

A revival of a historical thing can happen for sure, but it is that, rather than a continuation of a living tradition.

Since ankle-boots stopped being accepted as "traditional Highland dress" by around 1900 their wearing is indeed historical.

Well done! That's a good definition. Thanks!

[RichardtheLarge]

Jock's point is well taken, because (at least according to my understanding) "traditional" ends when a thing stops being current.

Traditional implies that a thing is currently surviving and living, and goes back through time with an unbroken lineage of evolutionary forms to an unknown origin.

Once a things falls into disuse and becomes exinct it becomes historical.

A revival of a historical thing can happen for sure, but it is that, rather than a continuation of a living tradition.

Since ankle-boots stopped being accepted as "traditional Highland dress" by around 1900 their wearing is indeed historical.

I must admit guilt that I rather enjoy and myself wear many of the “historical” fashions—including, but not limited to, tartan hose for daywear and ankle boots with kilts.

Are you of the opinion that hair/angora/Persian lamb sporrans are historical or traditional?