A military Hunting Stewart kilt joins my collection

[kingandrew]

Gentlemen,

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There are other companies out there doing the same thing, such as Proper Cloth, but I don't have any personal experience with them.

Andrew

[FossilHunter]

Could anyone tell me what unit wore hunting Stewart as part of their uniform?

[McMurdo]

Could anyone tell me what unit wore hunting Stewart as part of their uniform?

Here is a link I found the other day from the STA on regimental tartans

http://www.tartansauthority.com/tart...ental-tartans/

[OC Richard]

Could anyone tell me what unit wore hunting Stewart as part of their uniform?

As part of the gradual Highland-ising of the dress of the Lowland regiments the Royal Scots were put into Hunting Stuart trews.

Their pipers wore Royal Stewart kilts.

These things can still be seen in the dress of the Pipes & Drums of 1SCOTS.



For Hunting Stuart kilts, they're worn by Queen Victoria School (Scotland)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SargENCnPhE

and the Canadian Scottish Regiment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pXTOfVtGO0

[OC Richard]

Here is a link I found the other day from the STA on regimental tartans

http://www.tartansauthority.com/tart...ental-tartans/

Looking over that page there are a number of small mistakes, typos, and things that aren't worded clearly.

For example

Prince Charles Edward Stuart - worn by the 72nd Regiment Seaforths (The Duke of Albany's Own Highlanders) as trews (1809) until almalgamation with the 78th (Ross-shire Buffs) in 1881 after which they both wore MacKenzie.

That would make you think that the "72nd Regiment Seaforths" wore Prince Charles Edward Stuart trews in 1809.

They did not.

Actually 1809 was the year the government took away the Highland Dress (kilts etc) of several Highland regiments, namely the 71st, 72nd, 73rd, 74th, 75th, and 91st Foot. After 1809 these regiments had the same appearance of English and Lowland Scottish regiments.

Later a degree of Highland Dress was restored to three of those six regiments.

In 1823 the 72nd Foot were allowed trews in Prince Charles Edward Stuart tartan, along with the Highland doublet and feather bonnet, which gave the 72nd a unique appearance in the British army. In 1881 the 72nd Foot became the 1st Battalion Seaforth Highlanders.

That article is the first time I've seen the term "the 72nd Regiment Seaforths". Up till 1881 regiments were numbered, after 1881 they were named.

[McMurdo]

Thank you for the insight Richard.

[FossilHunter]

Thanks McMurdo and OCRichard.

I never realized that so many tartans were used in Scottish regiments. Of course I knew about Black watch, Gordon, and seaforth but I was surprised to see McDonald of keppoch and some others on the list. You learn something knew every day.

[OC Richard]

I never realized that so many tartans were used in Scottish regiments. Of course I knew about Black Watch, Gordon, and Seaforth but I was surprised to see McDonald of keppoch and some others on the list. You learn something new every day.

The history of military tartans is really interesting. 19 Highland regiments were raised and disbanded in Scotland between 1745 and 1800, most wearing the Government Tartan.

The late 18th century showed a process of adding light lines over the Government Tartan which produced Gordon and MacKenzie.

A wide variety of tartans are seen in various Dominions Scottish regiments. I think it's safe to say that many more different tartans were used by Canadian Scottish regiments than there were in Scottish Scottish regiments. (I say "were" rather than "are" due to recent budget cuts in both countries resulting in many units being disbanded, reduced, or amalgamated.)