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19th November 18, 02:42 AM
#41
Originally Posted by OC Richard
But what is a selvedge pattern versus a selvedge mark?
I'm guessing the herringbone creates a pattern, but what is the "mark"?
And what is "tucked selvedge" versus whatever other sorts?
To me (a mere kilt wearer, not a weaver) these things are weaving technicalities and not something I would have thought of in ordering a kilt, even my "fantasy kilt".
Ditto what methods are used for dying the wool, and whether the fabric is hand woven or machine woven.
There's a parallel to that in the piping world, when McCallum Bagpipes began mass-producing pipes using CNC lathes and milling machines, causing much debate amongst pipers.
I too work on the "you build it and I will fly it" principal. I have vague ideas on weaving , dying of cloth and even how the kilt is built. Frankly those are details that I can happily be not too concerned about. Likewise, I have no interest how "rule eleven" stuff, fishing tackle(both of which are very dear to my heart), cars, tractors, combine harvesters, watches, or anything is made. If its well made then it lasts, if it aesthetically pleasing then even better-------yes even tractors!------- then thats all I want to know.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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19th November 18, 06:30 PM
#42
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I too work on the "you build it and I will fly it" principal. I have vague ideas on weaving , dying of cloth and even how the kilt is built. Frankly those are details that I can happily be not too concerned about. Likewise, I have no interest how "rule eleven" stuff, fishing tackle(both of which are very dear to my heart), cars, tractors, combine harvesters, watches, or anything is made. If its well made then it lasts, if it aesthetically pleasing then even better-------yes even tractors!------- then thats all I want to know.
At the risk of taking us even further off topic, I am of like mind with Jock. I love Jaguars (I had an XKE 1962), Mustangs (a 1964-1/2), and a Morgan (1952), but I know next-to-nothing about internal combustion engines. And really don't have any desire to learn.
On-topic, however, I have three kilts that have shrunk somewhat over the years (a bit beyond strap-shifting).
One of them can't be reproduced. It was woven by the renowned Jamie Scarlett and was a gift from The Mackintosh, Jamie and Jamie's wife, Meta Macbean. My fantasy is to have this one re-made.
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20th November 18, 02:34 PM
#43
Originally Posted by ThistleDown
On-topic, however, I have three kilts that have shrunk somewhat over the years (a bit beyond strap-shifting).
One of them can't be reproduced. It was woven by the renowned Jamie Scarlett and was a gift from The Mackintosh, Jamie and Jamie's wife, Meta Macbean. My fantasy is to have this one re-made.
I am almost positive that you could have it re-made to your specifications. A good kilt maker is part magician.
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20th November 18, 03:13 PM
#44
Thanks, Glen, but I have talked with Barb Tewksbury and she recommended against it. I know next-to-nothing about kilt-making, so I must go with her when she says I would not be happy with the result. In the case of the Clan Chattan, the heritage/historic value has to be considered, as well. So there are only two alternatives: set them aside for another generation, or lose girth. I'll probably go for the latter. That might just fulfill two fantasies
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21st November 18, 07:16 AM
#45
Originally Posted by ThistleDown
...she says I would not be happy with the result.
My curiosity is up. Would the weaver not be able to accurately reproduce the tartan or.... ??
Tulach Ard
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21st November 18, 07:52 AM
#46
Originally Posted by MacKenzie
My curiosity is up. Would the weaver not be able to accurately reproduce the tartan or.... ??
I think the comment was in relation to having the original kilt pulled apart and re-made rather than having the cloth reproduced.
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21st November 18, 07:57 AM
#47
Originally Posted by figheadair
I think the comment was in relation to having the original kilt pulled apart and re-made rather than having the cloth reproduced.
I see. Thanks.
Tulach Ard
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21st November 18, 09:24 AM
#48
Sorry, Already have mine. This was taken at my work retirement luncheon. The Kilt is Stuart of Bute. The Jacket and vest are from the USAKilts tweed collection.
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21st November 18, 11:19 AM
#49
Originally Posted by MacKenzie
My curiosity is up. Would the weaver not be able to accurately reproduce the tartan or.... ??
Peter is correct, MacKenzie. Jamie Scarlett wove this years ago, but he's gone now so that one can't be made anew. The Strome could be, but would require the weaving of an entire bolt and when a few of us enquired, the cost was too high, even when shared. We tried a different route, with Marton Mills, but commitments were still insufficient for us to proceed.
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21st November 18, 12:35 PM
#50
Originally Posted by Madadh
Sorry, Already have mine. The Kilt is Stuart of Bute. The Jacket and vest are from the USAKilts tweed collection.
Lovely all around! It's a very handsome tartan, and the tweed outfit looks great as does the whole ensemble.
(My only quibble would be the plaid brooch- just drape the plaid over your shoulder and Bob's your Uncle.)
Last edited by OC Richard; 21st November 18 at 12:40 PM.
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