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**Barb T** · 14th December 04, 02:20 PM

Well, I obviously screwed up trying to post the picture. Let me try again:

Cheers,

Barb

**macwilkin** · 14th December 04, 02:59 PM

Didn't the USAF actually register a previously "dormant" tartan in Scotland? Let me check something tonight. I do remember seeing a description of the USAF Pipes & Drums in a Company of Military Historians magazine years ago that the first tartan they wore was the Mitchell tartan, in honour of General Billy Mitchell, a pioneer of modern air power.

The Royal Canadian Air Force has a great tartan as well, IMHO.

Cheers,

T.

**Riverkilt** · 14th December 04, 09:22 PM

Semper Fi Dana,

Welcome aboard.

There's a great bit on kilts for men at www.kiltmen.com that might help your wife "get it." That's optimistic, but what the hell eh?

Ron

**Bill** · 14th December 04, 10:11 PM

Welcome Dana!

As you can see you've just bought in with a great bunch of people who never cease to amaze me. Over the few months that I been here I've been educated, entertained, and enlightened. I trust that you will find the same as you get to know us.

Slainthe!

Bill

**Barb T** · 15th December 04, 06:20 AM

Hi folks

The U.S. Air Force Pipe Band did indeed choose a dormant tartan, one called the "Lady Jane", although the Air Force as a service has never adopted it formally (at least to my knowledge). I assume they chose it because it has blue, gold, red, and white. I think it was some time in the late 1980s that they did this.

Cheers!

Barb

**Barb T** · 15th December 04, 06:30 AM

Sorry - blue, gold, and red. No white. It was in 1987 that the U.S. Air Force Pipe band chose the unclaimed tartan the "Lady Jane" from Strathmore Woollen Company. It is unofficial, unlike the RCAF tartan (although the RCAF itself no longer exists - it was merged into the Canadian Armed Forces in 1968 and is now known as the Canadian Forces Air Command).

Barb

**dana** · 15th December 04, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by Bill

Welcome Dana!

As you can see you've just bought in with a great bunch of people who never cease to amaze me. Over the few months that I been here I've been educated, entertained, and enlightened. I trust that you will find the same as you get to know us.

Slainthe!

Bill

Hi Bill,

I am already amazed at the people here. Clearly a brotherhood of kilt wearers that support and encourage each other way beyond the social norm. I've only been here a few days and already I feel like part of the family.

I look forward to many years of fellowship here in this awesome community.

Thanks for taking me in so easily.

dana

**macwilkin** · 15th December 04, 07:09 AM

(although the RCAF itself no longer exists - it was merged into the Canadian Armed Forces in 1968 and is now known as the Canadian Forces Air Command).

Barb: The RCAF is back. The amalgamation of the Canadian Armed Forces was thankfully reversed in the early 1980's:

http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/index_e.asp

http://www.rcaf.com/1969_1996_unification/

The inspiration for the RCAF tartan was at a Burns Nicht in Nova Scotia in 1942, and the tartan is based on the Anderson tartan, btw.

Cheers,

T.

**Barb T** · 15th December 04, 07:25 AM

True, Canada has an air force under the unified Air Command (Canadian Forces Air Command), but it hasn't been called the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) since 1968 (at least to my knowledge!). Am I wrong about this??

Cheers,

Barb

**macwilkin** · 15th December 04, 07:53 AM

Good question, Barb! The web page would lead you to believe it:

http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/

But I'm not sure if they took the title back. Oh, well...:mrgreen:

Cheers,

T.