Mitchell / Innes Clan affiliations in Perth?

[EagleJCS]

Actually, Steve, the Scottish Borders also had clans that were recognized as such by an Act of Scottish Parliament in 1587 “held at Edinburgh upon 29 July 1587 for the quieting and keeping in obedience of the disorderly persons, inhabitants of the borders, highlands and isles” which goes on to list the chieftains and chiefs of these clans in the borders and Highlands.

The organized/extended families dwelling in the Lowlands were excepted from this Act.

There is an article by a Dr Bruce Durie, former professor of genealogy at Strathclyde University on https://www.scotclans.com/what-is-a-...r-bruce-durie/ that discusses what constitutes a clan, etc., etc.

To quote from the above article: "“Clans” are therefore a phenomenon of the Highlands and Borders and the equivalent kinship/territorial structures in the Lowlands are the “family”, usually based on a feudal barony."

[Steve Ashton]

Please note that I specifically mentioned the Highland Clan system and did not mention the border regions due to the OP stating that his ancestors were from Perth.

And from your same document.

• clans were a Highland and Borders phenomenon, not applicable to the Families of the Lowlands, where the majority of the Scottish population lived then and lives now;
• clans were not just, and not even, a kinship group;
• the “clan system” was one, but not the only, consequence of importing the Anglo-Norman feudal system to Scotland;
• most Scots were never part of the “clan system” (however defined);
• the term “Clan” ceased to have any real meaning post-1746, and assumed a different meaning post-1820;
• clans have no formal place in Scots law, although chiefs do, to some extent;
• tartans, although in some cases ancient, did not have the one-to-one relationship to surnames as is now affirmed, until the early 19th Century.

That pretty well says exactly what I posted. In fact your document is one of the sources from my research into Scottish history.

[ThistleDown]

Actually, Steve, the Scottish Borders also had clans that were recognized as such by an Act of Scottish Parliament in 1587 “held at Edinburgh upon 29 July 1587 for the quieting and keeping in obedience of the disorderly persons, inhabitants of the borders, highlands and isles” which goes on to list the chieftains and chiefs of these clans in the borders and Highlands.

The organized/extended families dwelling in the Lowlands were excepted from this Act.

There is an article by a Dr Bruce Durie, former professor of genealogy at Strathclyde University on https://www.scotclans.com/what-is-a-...r-bruce-durie/ that discusses what constitutes a clan, etc., etc.

To quote from the above article: "“Clans” are therefore a phenomenon of the Highlands and Borders and the equivalent kinship/territorial structures in the Lowlands are the “family”, usually based on a feudal barony."

Yes, I agree with the extension of 1587 as it applied to the most Northern and the most Southern regions of Scotland in that time. I disagree with who the 'Highland' clans thought of themselves to be at that time.

The Gaelic and Borders cultures had long been separated by that date. The Highlands remained a patriarchal society within an over-riding and imposed feudal, and the Borders had long accepted the feudal over-riding the patriarchal.

Perhaps a subtle or difference in our time, but of enormous distance in the 16C.

[AndrewSinclairYoung]

Throwing my two cents into the bucket - I have a few ancestors form Perth during that time who were descendants of clan Sinclair. I also have “Rutherford, Thompson and Miller in my tree from that area I’d you see those names pop up.

I imagine by the mid 1800s some of the clan families had started to move south (and to North America, Australia etc) which is what I’ve discovered, so by that point, locations can be tricky.