Is it OK for just anybody to kilt up?

**Ninehostages** · 17th November 20, 08:47 AM

It DOES sound better in German by candlelight on Christmas Eve. I don't know why but it just does.

Ahhh. Christmas Eve. Not this year, by the looks of it.

**OC Richard** · 18th November 20, 07:54 AM

One thing, once you can pronounce nacht in German you're ready for nicht in Scots.

And piobaireachd in the Gaelic.

A voiceless velar fricative in front of a voiceless final stop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative

**Ninehostages** · 18th November 20, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

One thing, once you can pronounce nacht in German you're ready for nicht in Scots.

And piobaireachd in the Gaelic.

A voiceless velar fricative in front of a voiceless final stop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_fricative

I'm getting fed up with voiceless fricatives and I wish that they would stand up for themselves a bit more.

By the way, try singing an hour and a half of Rachmaninoff, acapella in Church Russian if you want to really challenge your palate.

**Steve Ashton** · 18th November 20, 06:16 PM

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