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11th October 21, 03:54 PM
#21
 Originally Posted by Troglodyte
But here is something we all may have seen before, which shows a fair tradition of such tweed-and-tartan ensembles -
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That's one of my favourite images of Highland Dress, here's a larger image:

And the tradition goes back much further, here are four examples:
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12th October 21, 03:47 AM
#22
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
That's one of my favourite images of Highland Dress, here's a larger image:

I used to see these houndstooth and dogtooth patterns being worn as sports coats as well as kilt jackets very often in the 1940's/50/60's often the common pattern(not a mixture) on individual coats was a sort of a faded green, or faded brown, grey with a not so common fourth individual colour in a more prominent blue/black. The checks varied in size from jacket to jacket and I would say from memory, that the checks shown in your picture would be slightly on the small size.
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12th October 21, 06:07 AM
#23
Jock, I am sure it will not surprise you that my Burns Check Argyll jacket is from the 1940's.
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12th October 21, 06:22 AM
#24
I'm not the biggest fan of "loud" clothing to begin with, but I think you've pulled it off splendidly with these examples @McMurdo. And, I love the pic of the houndstooth over the tartan. Very sharp.
I find that as long as the combination of tweed over tartan is pleasing to the wearer, then all is well. Taste in clothing is completely subjective and what one loves another will hate. And, except for military dress controlled by defined regulations, there is no "should" or "shall" when it comes to clothing, including the kilt. Yes, there are traditions or what has been traditionally done, but even those traditions change and continue to change. Heck, military dress regulations change as well.
There are no "problems" when combining "loud" tweeds with kilts and there is no "right context" either. And it doesn't matter if one piece of clothing "diminishes" another because the point of the outfit is to enhance the person.
There is only personal preference when it comes to clothing, and the preference of any other than the wearer should only be taken with a grain of salt. Fashions have changed over the centuries because people have dared to be different; have tried new things. Some things take and some don't, and over the years what society deems acceptable at the time changes as well. So, as long as the wearer is happy, even if it's not pleasing to my eye, I'm happy with whatever they wear.
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12th October 21, 06:50 AM
#25
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
Jock, I am sure it will not surprise you that my Burns Check Argyll jacket is from the 1940's.
You are quite right Glen. I am not in the least bit surprised.
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12th October 21, 04:58 PM
#26
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
OK this is just ghastly, just by itself!

That used to be the stuff of golf Pro Shops.
Those ancient U Nialls from Donegal were a randy bunch.
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12th October 21, 10:33 PM
#27
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
That's one of my favourite images of Highland Dress, here's a larger image:

That reminds me of various photos I have seen of Edward VIII/Duke of Windsor in a houndstooth tweed - although most are in B&W.
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14th October 21, 10:17 AM
#28
My take
Personally, I really enjoy a tweed with a bit of personality. Whist I agree that care must be taken not to look clownish, there is some degree of subjectivity in what constitutes over the top and what constitutes cutting a dash. There is something to be said about a unique cloth, rather than choosing those that are most widely commercially available. There's nothing inherently wrong with the popular lovats and charcoals, it's just that they are a victim of their own popularity in a sense. I'd rather not sport a cookie cutter/uniform look with my Highland attire if I can help it.
This is the Highland outfit for which I have received the most compliments from kilt enthusiasts and those outside our community alike:

The window pane may not be to everyone's taste, but it is certainly to mine. I drew inspiration from this one, being worn here by the chief of Clan MacLeod:

This jacket and waistcoat have a more subtle pattern, which disappears when viewed at a distance, but provides some visual interest when up close. It gets the most wear because it goes with more of my kilts.

While it can't been seen clearly in the image, the colours in this tweed do pick up those in the tartan. (You have seen this jacket earlier in this thread). While some may like this and some may not, I was quite comfortable wearing this ensemble and wouldn't hesitate to wear it again, if I hadn't sold it on. One can't please everyone.

There is certainly a place for a more subdued, plain coloured tweed Argyll and I do still wear them. I like this one because the light moss green colour is a bit less common than those lovat shades one sees most regularly.

In any case, there is a long tradition of patterned tweeds being worn with tartan, and I think this look gives one's outfit a bit more of an inherited look, rather than a fresh from the kilt shop look. As some others have pointed out, care should be taken not to look too over the top, but what that is remains an interesting topic of discussion.
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15th October 21, 06:36 AM
#29
I have to say I am also a fan of a loud (but tasteful) tweed. That's currently my quest
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15th October 21, 07:44 AM
#30
 Originally Posted by Nathan
The window pane may not be to everyone's taste, but it is certainly to mine. I drew inspiration from this one, being worn here by the chief of Clan MacLeod:

I hope every one will be understanding as this post is going off topic, but this picture may be so helpful to those going to a funeral wearing the kilt. I am not techno savvy enough to move it elsewhere. So please bare with me.
The Picture is of Hugh MacLeod of MacLeod, 30th Chief of Clan Macleod at his father's, the 29th Chief of Clan MacLeod, funeral. You will notice his kilt attire does not include black attire, apart from a black tie, just normal kilt day Highland attire, which is absolutely traditional for kilt attire at funerals.
With apologies to the OP and the website as a whole, but I think important off topic lessons can be gained from this picture.
Now back to the subject in hand and again with my apologies.
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