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    Matching metals

    Matching metals for an evening event. Well, as closely as possible.

    Sporran - William Buchanan Taylor, Edinburgh 1906

    Buttons - Brook & Sons, Edinburgh 1910

    Sgian Dubh - Thomas Ebbert, Edinburgh, 1923

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    I especially like the buttons. Would I be correct in guessing all metals are silver?
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    What lovely things to own, see, use and enjoy Peter. Before we head off with the idea that all metal with one’s kilt attire must match then think again because they don’t have to, it’s nice if they do though.

    There are a number of dress sporrans , military or, ex military one’s in particular, which have two, perhaps three, different metals of very obvious colour differences that have been and still are worn happily on occasion today without a thought of matching, the buttons, the watch chain, and the like, by those wearing them and those viewing them.
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhockin View Post
    I especially like the buttons. Would I be correct in guessing all metals are silver?
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    Yes they are. All hallmarked, hence the dates.

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    My impression- from looking at many vintage images- is that matching silver has long been considered "proper" for Evening Dress. Viewing the matter from the opposite side, brass would look too informal for Evening.

    In Day Dress, imagery suggest that in the 19th century German Silver was the most common metal. When polished up, German Silver (AKA cupro-nickel or nickel-silver) has quite the resemblance to silver.

    As the 20th century progressed, and especially by the 1960s or so, brass started becoming popular for Day accoutrements. In the last decades of the 20th century one began seeing all-brass accoutrements in Day outfits. Suddenly even nickel kilt-buckles were considered out-of-place in Day outfits by some.

    On the other hand the military has long freely mixed gilt and silver accoutrements and trimmings.

    Time for pictures!

    The preponderance of silver, and the odd appearance of brass, in Victorian Highland outfits. Is the 18th century style sporran a century-old original, or a revival?

    Note that Victorian "day" tweed outfits tended to avoid/minimise metal in general.



    In the Highland regiments metals were freely mixed, perhaps nowhere more so than in the Black Watch; for those keeping score at home, it's

    Gilt:
    doublet buttons, lace, and embroidered badges
    sporran cantle
    dirk
    sgian


    Silver:
    crossbelt and waistbelt hardware
    lower crossbelt badge
    collar badges
    plaid brooch
    bagpipe mounts

    Bi-metal silver and gilt:
    upper crossbelt badge

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    Worn at an event at the Palace of Holyrood House.

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    Peter

    I like that splash of blue against the dark background in your jacket in the first photo. As usual your ensemble is perfection!

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    Palace photo

    If you don't mind me asking Peter. What tartan are you wearing in this photo? It looks splendid as does your entire kit. Exquisite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilted redleg View Post
    Peter

    I like that splash of blue against the dark background in your jacket in the first photo. As usual your ensemble is perfection!
    Thank you. Dark blue velvet with blue piping. I had the Doublet made based on a Blwck Meyer & Mortimer one from 1942. I particularly like the curved cut of the waistcoat compared with the more modern V shape.
    Last edited by figheadair; 29th September 22 at 01:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinenotburn View Post
    If you don't mind me asking Peter. What tartan are you wearing in this photo? It looks splendid as does your entire kit. Exquisite!
    It's a reconstruction I did of this one An early C19th kilt made from an old plaid.

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