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25th January 24, 11:10 AM
#21
 Originally Posted by Liam
Then let's keep it healthy and leave our “Gilbertian” comments out of the picture. Sounds a bit like “Albertan” by the way.
I had rather guessed a connection to the state of Alberta, but to be honest I really don’t understand the relevance of your last sentence above?
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27th January 24, 11:34 AM
#22
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
...theatrical tartan outfits that do absolutely no favours to general kilt attire at all.
Interestingly, I do believe the only time I've seen, in person, a full tartan outfit worn here in the USA was by a Clan Chief who was visiting one of our Highland Games.
Someone not knowing his position might take his head-to-toe tartan outfit and big bonnet feathers as being theatrical.
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27th January 24, 11:40 AM
#23
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
Interestingly, I do believe the only time I've seen, in person, a full tartan outfit worn here in the USA was by a Clan Chief who was visiting one of our Highland Games.
Someone not knowing his position might take his head-to-toe tartan outfit and big bonnet feathers as being theatrical.
Last fall I competed at Highland Games in New England and a visiting clan chief had an Argyle Jacket over a “Jacobite” shirt.
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4th February 24, 09:18 PM
#24
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
Interestingly, I do believe the only  time I've seen, in person, a full tartan outfit worn here in thelUSA was by a Clan Chief who was visiting one of our Highland Games.
Someone not knowing his position might take his head-to-toe tartan outfit and big bonnet feathers as being theatrical.
Some who do know would absolutely and definitely consider that particular Chief’s outfit as rather unnecessary and overly theatrical.
A plain coloured( not tartan )bonnet and feathers are significant as that shows to all the Chief’s position in life and that is acceptable and traditional.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 4th February 24 at 10:02 PM.
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5th February 24, 04:59 AM
#25
My take on his outfit was
1) he's the Chief and if someone is going to display his tartan head-to-toe who's more fitting than him to do it?
2) he's the Chief so he can dress as he pleases.
3) we Americans might be expecting a bit of panache from the Chief.
(I've seen photos of him elsewhere dressed in a much more reserved manner.)
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5th February 24, 06:23 AM
#26
I wonder how much a 'tatran excess' reaction to seeing a full-tartan outfit is more a modern view based on conditioned expectation, than anything else.
True, the tartanmania theatricals that plagued the 19th century ballrooms have perhaps been that small step from the sublime to the ridiculous, but Highland dress from previous eras seems to have been a pick-n-mix riot of tartan - if contemporary illustrations and portraits are anything to go by.
Personally, I rather like to see full use of tartan in an outfit (but moderated for the occasion) and have pretty much the same attitude to what you might call full-tartan day-wear, as I have to a tweed three-piece suit with matching cap and overcoat. Both are rare sights these days, but can be a great treat to see.
In the post-WWII period, the then Lord Lyon was bewailing the ever-descending dressing-down of Highland dress, which he said were "Attempts by self-concious Lowlanders to convert the picturesque dress of the Gael into a 'quiet style' and to deprive the garb of its ornament or reduce it to drab monotony... is un-Scottish and contemptible."
Sir Thomas Innes was no doubt onto something there, and we all know the 'right thing' when we see it - and feel our sensibilities jarred when done otherwise.
Everything in moderation, I say, but we should always feel free to indulge when we have the chance.
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6th February 24, 11:01 AM
#27
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
Tartan waistcoats and hose are things I'd love to see worn more often.
Same here!
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28th February 24, 12:02 PM
#28
'Robert MacNab and Donald MacNaghton'
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28th February 24, 12:06 PM
#29
Gilbertian
Some of us have a little more Gilbertian in us than others... 
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28th February 24, 03:25 PM
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" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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