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27th July 24, 03:40 AM
#21
Originally Posted by jthk
I wonder if a person didn't have your extensive experience and education (I mean this as a complimen), would they still think that the great kilt was a historical costume? I doubt it. ;-)
I think to most in Scotland educated or not (and lets not forget, by the way, that most in Scotland don't wear the kilt at all, ever) would consider the great kilt as an unnecessary garment. Historical? Yes. Relevant to todays situations? Absolutely not. But then, most here in Scotland, don't have these romantic thoughts-------apart from romantic thoughts about winning a football championship!---------- that some of those outwith these shores seem to have.
As seen at the latest international football matches the kilt in its more modern form is the way the kilt is worn by the Scots supporters. Albeit in many different ways! So yes, from the Scots point of view, the great kilt , particularly so in a non tartan form, would be thought of as being most definitely a historical and an irrelevant theatrical costume.
Sorry, but you did ask.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 27th July 24 at 10:59 AM.
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27th July 24, 07:08 PM
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I, too, think the plaid is unnecessary and historic; completely irrelevant to many common situations in the 21st century. I agree with you ... doesn't stop me from liking it. I'm familiar with the standard romantic thoughts of which you mention and which I do not share. As clearly as I can tell from my perspective, I possess no detectable romantic notions or thoughts about Scotland or the plaid. Scotland has some nice places -- I've been many times, and I know you live there -- but there are many nice places in the world. The historic plaid and it's traditional grandchild, the tailored traditional kilt, are nice and I like them plenty but my interest in them has virtually nothing to do with any "romantic" images or impressions -- I just like 'em as garments.
I'm an Irish-speaking North American who splits his time between rural western New England and Ireland ... with travels to other places when time and finances permit. To many, I'm "odd" (or whatever adjective you wish to insert here) for simply wearing garments that aren't trousers. So, with a plaid, I'm still "odd."
No loss.
Best to you and yours, Jock.
Jonathan
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I think to most in Scotland educated or not (and lets not forget, by the way, that most in Scotland don't wear the kilt at all, ever) would consider the great kilt as an unnecessary garment. Historical? Yes. Relevant to todays situations? Absolutely not. But then, most here in Scotland, don't have these romantic thoughts-------apart from romantic thoughts about winning a football championship!---------- that some of those outwith these shores seem to have.
As seen at the latest international football matches the kilt in its more modern form is the way the kilt is worn by the Scots supporters. Albeit in many different ways! So yes, from the Scots point of view, the great kilt , particularly so in a non tartan form, would be thought of as being most definitely a historical and an irrelevant theatrical costume.
Sorry, but you did ask.
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27th July 24, 09:49 PM
#23
Originally Posted by jthk
I, too, think the plaid is unnecessary and historic; completely irrelevant to many common situations in the 21st century. I agree with you ... doesn't stop me from liking it. I'm familiar with the standard romantic thoughts of which you mention and which I do not share. As clearly as I can tell from my perspective, I possess no detectable romantic notions or thoughts about Scotland or the plaid. Scotland has some nice places -- I've been many times, and I know you live there -- but there are many nice places in the world. The historic plaid and it's traditional grandchild, the tailored traditional kilt, are nice and I like them plenty but my interest in them has virtually nothing to do with any "romantic" images or impressions -- I just like 'em as garments.
I'm an Irish-speaking North American who splits his time between rural western New England and Ireland ... with travels to other places when time and finances permit. To many, I'm "odd" (or whatever adjective you wish to insert here) for simply wearing garments that aren't trousers. So, with a plaid, I'm still "odd."
No loss.
Best to you and yours, Jock.
Jonathan
We both are privileged to have the freedom of choice with what we might wear. You asked a question and you had an answer. What happens after that is entirely your affair.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 27th July 24 at 10:58 PM.
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28th July 24, 06:22 AM
#24
Jock, pardon the correction but I didn't ask any questions; I wanted to provide a different perspective to Matt (the OP) than what was provided.
Cheerios.
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
We both are privileged to have the freedom of choice with what we might wear. You asked a question and you had an answer. What happens after that is entirely your affair.
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28th July 24, 07:09 AM
#25
Originally Posted by jthk
I wonder if a person didn't have your extensive experience and education (I mean this as a complimen), would they still think that the great kilt was a historical costume? I doubt it. ;-)
I don't want to split hairs here but, I think a question mark denotes a question.
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28th July 24, 07:11 AM
#26
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I don't want to split hairs here but, I think a question mark denotes a question.
Split hairs, welcome! That's very fair. ;-)
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28th July 24, 07:17 AM
#27
Originally Posted by jthk
Split hairs, welcome! That's very fair. ;-)
No worries my dear chap.
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