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4th November 24, 11:18 PM
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18th century scottish regiments
Trying to find information on Scottish regiments around the time of the French and Indian war, and the American Revolution. I'm mostly trying to find out how they would have been outfitted at the time, since they would have been part of Britain. Would they have used the same brown bess as the British Regulars or did they have their own? Tartans they would have worn? The internet is pretty limited on what they had as soldiers.
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Originally Posted by timemeddler
Trying to find information on Scottish regiments around the time of the French and Indian war, and the American Revolution. I'm mostly trying to find out how they would have been outfitted at the time, since they would have been part of Britain. Would they have used the same brown bess as the British Regulars or did they have their own? Tartans they would have worn? The internet is pretty limited on what they had as soldiers.
All the Highland regiments at the time of the F&IW (generally referred to as the Seven Years' War in Britain) wore the 42nd (Black Watch or Government) tartan.
There are a number of portraits of the period showing the dress and arms of Highland soldiers (generally, officers) such as the Pinch of Snuff c.1760 by Delacour.
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Originally Posted by timemeddler
The internet is pretty limited on what they had as soldiers.
There, you see - instant answers, and yes, XMarks is part of the Internet! ;)
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There is a wealth of information on this subject, and you could do a lot worse than trawling through David Stewart of Garth's Sketches, as they give both the official regimental view of events and engagements, as well as personal first-hand accounts. He is often quoted.
Garth himself was an experienced officer, and seems happy to criticise officialdom when it is deserved.
One such is the withrawal of the broadsword for the Highlander, at a time when it was proving both a favourite with the individual Highland soldier and useful in the kind of warfare seen in North America.
You will find that some regiments were only short-lived, being raised for colonial service and disbanded after only a few years. But the 42nd (Black Watch) may be worth singling out for more detailed study.
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There is a series called Osprey that covers military history. They have several books on the period and on Scotland in particular. Just Google osprey and highlanders and you should find them.
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Black watch with red
I.am a bit confused. The print seems to have a red stripe and my understanding is the Black watch tartan does not have any red. I claim a clan connection with the Murray's whose tartan was inspired by the Black Watch tartan to which a red stripe was added.
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Originally Posted by kilted2000
There is a series called Osprey that covers military history. They have several books on the period and on Scotland in particular. Just Google osprey and highlanders and you should find them.
These books are a useful guide but include a number of inaccuracies.
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Originally Posted by RGM1
I.am a bit confused. The print seems to have a red stripe and my understanding is the Black watch tartan does not have any red. I claim a clan connection with the Murray's whose tartan was inspired by the Black Watch tartan to which a red stripe was added.
These drawings are a useful guide by not necessarily historically accurate. It is from a series of prints by Friedrich von German, captain of a regiment from Hesse-Hanau, one of the many German auxiliary troops hired by George III to fight in the American Revolution. He arrived in North America in 1775 During the war and painted a series of watercolors of American, British, and German soldiers.
There is no definitive evidence of the 42nd sett with red, or the Atholl tartan being worn during the AWI.
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