Ruche Ties

[Macman]

Never worn one, never will. I'll stick to a bow tie.

[figheadair]

Ruche ties scream hire shop wedding outfits. Having the misfortune to see one in a photograph is the closest I'd ever want to get to one.

[GG]

Except for black-tie and white-tie events, hardly any men will wear a tie anymore, not even lawyers, bankers, and top Level management - at least not i Scandinavia.

[Jock Scot]

I wear a tie most days except when I am on the farm where my sons have very sensibly introduced a "no tie" rule, amongst their "Health and Safety" regulations.

[Tomo]

Most certainly a nay from me - wouldn't be seen dead in one

[Tomo]

not even lawyers, bankers, and top Level management - at least not i Scandinavia.

As a lawyer, in Northern Europe, working for a Swedish company - my usual 'business' attire is T-shirt and Jeans - I don't think I have regularly worn a tie since about 2004 when I left a somewhat stuffy law firm in Nottingham - but the firm I was at before them adopted dress down (unless meeting clients) as early as 2000...

[CBH]

Except for black-tie and white-tie events, hardly any men will wear a tie anymore, not even lawyers, bankers, and top Level management - at least not i Scandinavia.

The US is largely the same. Even when high-visibility types still wear a suit, they usually ditch the tie.

its definitely not something I'll ever have to worry about.

[RGM1]

I attended an event in tweed jacket and kilt last night with a tie and most of the men were wearing ties. Was annual business meeting for local scouting council business meeting and I would have been underdressed without it. As it was, I received some nice compliments. Helps to know audience.
Rare scouting meeting when scout uniform was not most common attire.
Audience heavily into supporting program and acquiring donations, many of whom would be comfortable in C level meetings.

[OC Richard]

The thing about those hideous ruche ties is where did they come from in the first place?

It would be nice to know specific dates and places.

My impression is that they're recent. I can certainly remember a time when nobody wore them and I didn't see them in Hire Shops.

And they don't seem to exist in non-Highland contexts.

I just checked some London formal wear hire shops and they only have normal ties https://www.oliverbrownlondon.com/en...ns/hire?page=1

I also just checked some USA tux rental places and ditto, just ordinary bow ties and long ties.

Were ruche ties a thing for a while in non-Highland UK formal hire? Or have they always been a Kilt Hire thing only?

PS I just looked over some old 1980s kilt wedding photos online and the men are wearing either plain black bow ties or lace jabots (which I could also do without).

And there's this. Why choose between ruche and bow tie when you can do both?

[OC Richard]

About people wearing ties or suits in general, I thought about that last Sunday when I was attending the funeral of a prominent local musician, ensemble leader, music teacher, and music agent.

It's California. These are musicians.

I wore a kilt with brown tweed Argyll, fitting in that my main interaction with the man was him hiring me to play pipes at various events.

I was by no means the most overdressed person- there was an elderly gent in a three-piece black suit, white shirt, black bowtie, and black Bowler.

There were men in jeans and plaid flannel shirts, in slacks and Aloha shirts (common "dress" wear here), men in jeans with sportcoats, men in suits, even one guy in a black t-shirt and black Utilikilt.

I don't know how strange this assemblage would look in Britain, Canada, or even other parts of the USA, but it's the way it is here.