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16th March 25, 03:21 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by jsrnephdoc
This (and probably several other discussions on this forum) distill down to a tension among
- What looks good
- What's "authentic" (either as contemporary or historical dress)
- Where is it being worn

The kilt is a versatile garment and as such may be worn in any circumstances from white tie to hillwalking.
I am not sure if authenticity comes into it unless you are trying to recreate some historical event.
What looks good is probably a matter for the individual to decide and we have seen some examples of individuals who are not too good at making that decision. In my humble opinion as an Englishman, with a military background, the important thing is to wear the kilt in a way that looks like you have made an effort to learn how to do that correctly and does not insult the kilt or the highlanders who are rightly proud of their heritage.
The choice of upper body garments obviously depends on where or why. The more formal options, white/black tie lounge suit (a dated terminology) and sports jacket all have their modern equivalent designed for the kilt. Other than that pullovers, shirts long or short sleeved, polo shirts and T shirts (see tartan army) will work in the correct circumstances. In fact most tops or outer garments that would be worn with trousers. Possibly with exception of Hawaian shirts.
My point is with all of these options why would anyone want to attempt to recreate some sort of historical attire? The exceptions being reenactments or themed events.
Last edited by Janner52; 16th March 25 at 11:26 PM.
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21st March 25, 09:16 AM
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21st March 25, 09:58 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by MacKenzie
Those silly Scottish Scots in Scotland and their puffy pirate Jacobite shirts. Don' they know those aren't historically accurate? ;-)
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21st March 25, 01:58 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by User
Those silly Scottish Scots in Scotland and their puffy pirate Jacobite shirts. Don' they know those aren't historically accurate? ;-)
Depends on how far back you research. One of the oldest known paintings with Mongo Murray wearing a kilt had a puffy sleeved shirt. I'm sure it was all for glam as a part of the painting... but yes, nothing like the "Jacobite" shirts of today. I mean, in that period, most paintings were already completed prior to the face portion... so it may have been just a rendition of what the artist would have thought they would wear at the time. A recreation of a shirt from that period might have been a very long (down to the mid-thigh) wearing t-tunic with long sleeves that go just past mid-forearm.
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21st March 25, 06:41 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by spr0k3t
Depends on how far back you research. One of the oldest known paintings with Mongo Murray wearing a kilt had a puffy sleeved shirt. I'm sure it was all for glam as a part of the painting... but yes, nothing like the "Jacobite" shirts of today. I mean, in that period, most paintings were already completed prior to the face portion... so it may have been just a rendition of what the artist would have thought they would wear at the time. A recreation of a shirt from that period might have been a very long (down to the mid-thigh) wearing t-tunic with long sleeves that go just past mid-forearm.
I was just doing a bit of tongue-in-cheek. I don't claim to know what's historically accurate.
But OC Richard seems firm in his belief that Jacobite shirts aren't historic Scottish attire, and I haven't seen any of the Scottish historians disagree.
https://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/...33#post1410633
And:
https://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/...origins-98430/
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21st March 25, 07:47 PM
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 Originally Posted by User
OC Richard seems firm in his belief that Jacobite shirts aren't historic Scottish attire....
He's far from being the only one.
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22nd March 25, 12:42 AM
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To be honest, I don’t care for the pirate/ ghillie shirt style, in consequence, I don’t wear them. What others choose to wear is entirely their choice and if they want to look like a refugee from a film set, then, so be it. However, there are most certainly times when the ghillie shirt is not appropriate.
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