Where to get the weaving done in 2025?

[jsrnephdoc]

I had the privilege of designing the tartan and being there that day.

Are you foreground left in the picture? Is there a colloquial name for the modern kilt jacket (I have one, from K-A. It looks just like HM's, but I'll bet not quite the same amount of care was expended making it. What tartan are you wearing? And who is the guy with the braided stuff over his R shoulder? I see that he has a bow or rosette on his kilt; I assume he's an assistant to the King.

But the fabric repair lady was one of the real highlight of our visit. She NEVER stopped smiling.

[OC Richard]

And who is the guy with the braided stuff over his R shoulder? I see that he has a bow or rosette on his kilt; I assume he's an assistant to the King.

He's Major Jonathan Thompson of 5th Battalion The Royal Regiment of Scotland, in their uniform.

His title is Equerry.

The braided thing is called an Aiguillette. They're common in many militaries including those in the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiguillette

[figheadair]

He's Major Jonathan Thompson of 5th Battalion The Royal Regiment of Scotland, in their uniform.

His title is Equerry.

The braided thing is called an Aiguillette. They're common in many militaries including those in the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiguillette

He is now Lt Col Johnny Thompson and is now Senior Equerry.

[figheadair]

Are you foreground left in the picture? Is there a colloquial name for the modern kilt jacket (I have one, from K-A. It looks just like HM's, but I'll bet not quite the same amount of care was expended making it. What tartan are you wearing?

Yes, it is I.

The kilt jacket is recent, 2005, but the style is traditional. I'm wearing this tartan which was a reconstruction project that I did with Lochcarron.

[geomick]

Yes, it is I.

The kilt jacket is recent, 2005, but the style is traditional. I a wearing this tartan which was a reconstruction project that I did with Lochcarron.

Was the reconstruction a one time thing or do they produce that tartan as a continuing product?

[figheadair]

Was the reconstruction a one time thing or do they produce that tartan as a continuing product?

It was a limited run and is not currently available.

[jsrnephdoc]

Yes, it is I. The kilt jacket is recent, 2005, but the style is traditional. I a wearing this tartan which was a reconstruction project that I did with Lochcarron.

(with apologies to TS Eliot AND Andrew Lloyd Webber)

While on the GNK website this morning, looking for any news about "The Nursing Tartan," I came across what I assume is a relatively new tartan being sold by them which someone has named "The Holyrood Tartan." That made me wonder just how non-family tartans are named. Did someone at the Scottish Parliament have an official role in that designation? How about tartans named for organizations, such as US States, or branches of the US Military? Or is it "anything goes," so long as it doesn't infringe on another registered design or registered tartan name?

[figheadair]

(with apologies to TS Eliot AND Andrew Lloyd Webber)

While on the GNK website this morning, looking for any news about "The Nursing Tartan," I came across what I assume is a relatively new tartan being sold by them which someone has named "The Holyrood Tartan." That made me wonder just how non-family tartans are named. Did someone at the Scottish Parliament have an official role in that designation? How about tartans named for organizations, such as US States, or branches of the US Military? Or is it "anything goes," so long as it doesn't infringe on another registered design or registered tartan name?

In terms of those registered with the SRT, here's their guidance on Tartan Names.

[jsrnephdoc]

In terms of those registered with the SRT, here's their guidance on Tartan Names.

Thanks for that. I read it, and now I'd like to apply those rules to a tartan I just saw on Gordon Nicolson's website: Holyrood. It's listed as "commemorative," and designed for QE2's Silver Jubilee, so I assume that means it's also a "place" tartan that required someone in authority at Holyrood Palace to create the tartan name.

But what if the Scottish Prime Minister decided that the Scottish Parliament also deserved a "place" named tartan? Or what if whatever governmental agency is responsible for planning and executing events in that region of Edinburgh had the same notion? Could they not design a tartan and include "Holyrood" in its name?

Just trying to learn here. I have neither the software, nor the cerebral hardware/software combination to attempt designing a tartan myself.

And, just to add another wrinkle, what if someone just created a design, asked someone to weave it, and picked a name that conflicts with an already-registered name, would there be any enforceable prohibition against them doing so UNLESS they attempted to register it? I can think of many such tartans created by retailers in a "series" (for example, to celebrate the 250th birthday of the United States). Could one American retailer design a series of tartans embracing battle names, or names of the original 13 states, or whatever and have them woven for sale? If they didn't choose to register the names (meaning they DIDN'T attempt to obtain permission in accord with the registry) would another mill other than the one they chose to weave it for them be prohibited from weaving it as well?

Thanks so much,
Jim Robertson

[figheadair]

Thanks for that. I read it, and now I'd like to apply those rules to a tartan I just saw on Gordon Nicolson's website: Holyrood. It's listed as "commemorative," and designed for QE2's Silver Jubilee, so I assume that means it's also a "place" tartan that required someone in authority at Holyrood Palace to create the tartan name.

But what if the Scottish Prime Minister decided that the Scottish Parliament also deserved a "place" named tartan? Or what if whatever governmental agency is responsible for planning and executing events in that region of Edinburgh had the same notion? Could they not design a tartan and include "Holyrood" in its name?

Just trying to learn here. I have neither the software, nor the cerebral hardware/software combination to attempt designing a tartan myself.

And, just to add another wrinkle, what if someone just created a design, asked someone to weave it, and picked a name that conflicts with an already-registered name, would there be any enforceable prohibition against them doing so UNLESS they attempted to register it? I can think of many such tartans created by retailers in a "series" (for example, to celebrate the 250th birthday of the United States). Could one American retailer design a series of tartans embracing battle names, or names of the original 13 states, or whatever and have them woven for sale? If they didn't choose to register the names (meaning they DIDN'T attempt to obtain permission in accord with the registry) would another mill other than the one they chose to weave it for them be prohibited from weaving it as well?

Thanks so much,
Jim Robertson

The Holyrood dates to a period before the Register and its rules. There was therefore no authority required.

The Scottish First Minister (there is no Prime Minister of Scotland) could authorise a tartan with Holyrood as part of the name but they could not authorise the duplicate name and have it accepted by the register.

Only names that are registered can be protected. There is nothing to prevent a duplication of a name so long as the name is not protected or already in the register.