Oakleigh tartan, and a response from Clan MacNaughton

[macwilkin]

That's odd, using the separate names for the same thing.

Not as odd as you think. Three examples just off the top of my head:

Cumming/Buchan District

Campbell of Cawdor/Argyll District

Murphy/Tara (Ireland) District

That's not all, I'm sure! :mrgreen:

Sometimes a clan/family tartan is chosen as a district tartan (as in the case of the Cumming/Buchan) because that particular family is/was prominent in that district.

Further reason, IMHO, for a centralised tartan register to record all of these variants and end some confusion.

Cheers,

Todd

[Doc Hudson]

Huh. Ramsay Blue, huh? I'd noticed that the Ramsay tartan was a dark blue one, but not having the sharp eye of some of you gentlemen, not made the connection. That's odd, using the separate names for the same thing. They're even from the same mill.

Whatever the case, I like the tartan.

Not that odd and not limited to fabric.

Consider the 9 mm Parabellum cartridge. It is variously known as 9 mmP, 9x19mm, or 9 mm Luger.

The .380 is even worse, it is variously known as 9 mm Browning Short, 9 mm Kurz, 9 mm Corto, 9x16 mm, .380 Browning, and .380 ACP.

[Kate Oakleigh]

That is a real name the spelling was changed around 300-400 year ago. It is now spelt Oakley, yes like the sunglasses. I know this because it is my last name. So yes Oakleigh was a real clan.

[Jerry]

See, now I'm bloody well hooked. Get one kilt and now I need six of them. Arrgh.

ANY-way.... I find that I can afford kilts in poly-viscose but da reel thing in wool is beyond my means. Well, OK, not beyond my means but I just can't bring myself to drop the cash. Cheap, that's me. Ergo, I've been snooping the various tartan sites and finally focused on poly-viscose. there's quite a selection in p-v, come to find out. I really like the Oakleigh tartan. Well, OK, says I, but what is "Oakleigh"?

A search on the web reveals that there's a district in Melbourne-Australia named "Oakleigh", and there's an historic mansion in Mobile Alabama named Oakleigh. However, all the tartan sites suggest that Oakleigh is in fact a Scottish tartan, but I canna find naething aboot it. There are some English references to the name "Oakleigh", but nothing Scots besides a bread and breakfast inn somewhere. Any insights?

On another note, turns out that the MacNaughton muted tartan is available in p-v. Huzzah! McKnight is a sept of MacNaughtan, so I wrote to the worldwide director of Clan MacNaughtan to ask permission to wear the clan tartan, and I'm copying part of his response to me, below.

***" On wearing the tartan, we do not give permission to wear our tartan, no-one does. Anybody can wear any tartan they wish. It is just common sense that a person wears a tartan that they can identify with, of which you can."***

My response was that I thought I'd be polite and ask, but obviously no such thing is truly necessary....as Hamish and others here on X-marks have been saying for some time. So, methinks me next kilt will be a MacNaughtan, muted in poly-viscose. Things could be worse, eh?

Those are exactly the responses I got when I asked (Clan Macneil and House of Gordon). This seems to be the attitude of most, if not all of the clan societies.

[RockyR]

Ramsay is Black and blue with WHITE stripes. Oakleigh is black and blue with YELLOW stripes.

[GMan]

That is a real name the spelling was changed around 300-400 year ago. It is now spelt Oakley, yes like the sunglasses. I know this because it is my last name. So yes Oakleigh was a real clan.

Kate,

Glad that you brought back this thread so we can say WELCOME!