[quote="kilt by death"]A point of order:

As I look at this page, I can see on the browser bar "X MArks The Scot// a kilt forum- kilts, not skirts| Microsoft Internet Exp..........." Discuss.

For what it's worth: I am sorry you have decided not to wear your, em, skirt. However, if you had been wearing a kilt...

Sorry, I'll behave now.

Personally, I see kilts as having a front apron, pleats at the back and be made with X yards of material in a certain way by a trained kilt-maker. Even in not tartan materials, this can still happen( e.g. 21st century Kilts.) Hamish has said even he feels his Utilkilts type garments are not kilts, but skirts and (without actually seeing one close) I would tend to agree.
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as the proud owner of 3 Utilikilts I will explain the differences between those and Scottish style kilts. They are worn on the hips, not above the navel. The apron is more narrow, but it does have an obvious apron, and the knife pleats point back, meeting in the middle. You would be amazed how little your plears catch this way. And of course the pockets. if pleat direction, and apron size can make a kilt a skirt...well. All kilts are skirts, not all skirts are kilts. I call it a kilt, you can call it a skirt I don't care. just don't call it un-comfortable! besides when is the last time you could fit 20 beers in your sporran? huh?