Barb's posse

**Barb T** · 13th April 05, 07:56 AM

Yup - the suppliers need serious updating.

Barb

**beerbecue** · 14th April 05, 08:54 AM

I am beginning to think I must have done something wrong when ironing, as the apron edges hang smoothly against the sides of the kilt...

hmmmm......

kinda looks sorta skirt-ish to me now.....

**phil h** · 14th April 05, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Uncle Ricky

Originally Posted by Phil Wright

I'm interested to know if any other wish to keep regular contact about progress and issues?

Phil

Hi Phil, I would be happy to help in anyway that I can. I have utilised the book, and have completed my kilt. Barb was very helpful, and I like to return the favour when I can.

Cheers,

Rick

I have seen rick's kilt, one of the nicest kilts I have ever seen

**Barb T** · 14th April 05, 11:05 AM

BBQ said

I am beginning to think I must have done something wrong when ironing, as the apron edges hang smoothly against the sides of the kilt...

Actually, the apron edges in a traditional kilt _should_ hang smoothly against the sides of the kilt. So, I'm a little confused about what the problem is. Am I misinterpreting what you wrote??

Barb

**beerbecue** · 14th April 05, 12:01 PM

I have just seen a lot images of folks wearing the kilt lately, and it looks like the aprons are more flat, and flare out, than smooth against the sides.

I guess I am just confused.....

**Barb T** · 14th April 05, 12:17 PM

Actually, the big deal in traditional kiltmaking is to avoid the flare of the first pleat (i.e., having the first pleat "kick forward"). The best traditional kilts look like tubes when someone is not moving. That's not true for most of the non-traditional kilts that I've seen pictures of, where the kilt viewed from the front looks like it has little wings on both sides. I presume it's a function of both stiffness of the fabric and the method of construction (it takes considerable effort to make a kilt that avoids that flare).

Cheers!

Barb

**beerbecue** · 14th April 05, 12:32 PM

You have put my mind at ease......

I dinna mess up.....

**Barb T** · 14th April 05, 12:44 PM

Right! Sounds like you've done a perfect job on the apron edges - something that many kiltmakers have a tough time with!

Barb

**JazzKiltz** · 14th April 05, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Barb T.

Actually, the big deal in traditional kiltmaking is to avoid the flare of the first pleat (i.e., having the first pleat "kick forward"). The best traditional kilts look like tubes when someone is not moving. That's not true for most of the non-traditional kilts that I've seen pictures of, where the kilt viewed from the front looks like it has little wings on both sides. I presume it's a function of both stiffness of the fabric and the method of construction (it takes considerable effort to make a kilt that avoids that flare).

Cheers!

Barb

Thanks, I was wondering about that myself!

**herminator** · 15th April 05, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Barb T.

Good idea about the section on box pleating. I've never made a box-pleated kilt, but I'm going to ask Matt Newsome if he might like to be a co-author and help me put together a chapter on box pleating a kilt. Great idea!

And he also fixes the left buckle on the inside of the kilt, so having no need for the buttonhole! Perhaps that could be mentioned as an alternative.

What I find irritating is having to jump between inches in the book and the metric measures in which I work! Am I just a lone European with funny units?

Yesterday I bought the cloth, a wool twill in solid green/brown! Looks good feels good, came at a good price. In May I will begin work, having the livingroom floor to my self, wife and children will be gone!