Highly recomment the Scratch & Dent. My dear wife picked up a "Lovingly Used" New Survival in Sage of the list for a great deal. The best I can tell "Lovingly Used" means it may have been washed.

Side note on the Survival, they are also no longer planning to have the web strap over the cargo pockets as shown on the web site. Luckily I've got some ammo pouches for a M249 SAW with the perfect web strap that will work perfect, so I'll add that myself.