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[Scotus]

I second that Todd; however, the idea that ALL of Scotland wanted Bruce as their king! Well, as a Comyn descendant myself, it's a bit hard for me to take such liberties with the truth.

And to see so many kilts on Lowlanders.... Arrghh!

[macwilkin]

I second that Todd; however, the idea that ALL of Scotland wanted Bruce as their king! Well, as a Comyn descendant myself, it's a bit hard for me to take such liberties with the truth.

Gibson didn't mention that Wallace supported John Balliol's claim to the throne, and not the Bruce's...but you knew that already, Scotus! :mrgreen:

Cheers,

Todd

[Mike1]

That and the whole thing was filmed in Ireland anyway.

The whole thing, eh? Apparently they packed Inverness, Glen Nevis and Glencoe up and shipped them off to Ireland when nobody was looking? No wonder they had no budget left to build Stirling Brig.

[Scotus]

I’m afraid the support of Wallace for Baliol, and the better claim of the Red Comyn to the throne, wouldn’t have fit into the whole Bruce myth; just as putting the men in proper attire would have gone against the image of all those medieval Lowlanders in kilts.

[Colin]

That and the whole thing was filmed in Ireland anyway.

The whole thing, eh? Apparently they packed Inverness, Glen Nevis and Glencoe up and shipped them off to Ireland when nobody was looking? No wonder they had no budget left to build Stirling Brig.

From the majority of articles I read about it, and a few weeks spent at some of the sites in Ireland, it didn't sound like any filming took place in Scotland. Of course after thining about it more, I suppose the few highland scenes couldn't have been filmed in Irealnd.

[bjcustard]

Filming apparently was split between Ireland and Scotland...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112573/locations

I recall that the major battle scenes were done in Ireland, with the Army's help.

[Rob Wright]

That and the whole thing was filmed in Ireland anyway.

Most of the Scottish Army were actually members of the Irish Defence Forces.

One thing I will give Mel credit for is showing the fact that Robert the Bruce did side with the English when it benefited him. Of course, I come from the Comyns, so we're still a wee bit touchy about that whole murder in Greyfriar's Church thing! :mrgreen:

Cheers,

Todd

Not t omention eaving out the contributions of other family's such as the Douglas' and the the Murray's.

Rob

[highlander_Daz]

Most of the start with the young Wallace was filmed at Fort William in the shadow of Ben Nevis and it peed down all the time as it does nearly all the time any way.

Try not to read too much into it its just a film, so little is known about Wallace you could portray him as an Ice cream sales man and people would struggle to prove you wrong!! I know all the stuff about knocking up the princess and kilts and stuff, but its better that are now aware of Wallace !!!

[macwilkin]

Try not to read too much into it its just a film, so little is known about Wallace you could portray him as an Ice cream sales man and people would struggle to prove you wrong!! I know all the stuff about knocking up the princess and kilts and stuff, but its better that are now aware of Wallace !!!

Speaking as a history instructor, park ranger at a historical site & a reference librarian, historical films are double-eged swords. Whilst Daz is quite correct in the fact that more are now "aware" of a previously unknown figure like William Wallace, most people accept the film's accuracy at "face value" (Hollywood wouldn't film something that was incorrect, would they?) and don't seek further information after they see the film -- I'm not expecting them to write a PhD dissertation, but don't "put all your eggs in one basket". There are a lot of great books written for real people, and not just stuffy academic types about historical subjects that are waiting to be read.

Can you tell I'm a librarian?

Cheers,

Todd

[Doc Hudson]

Todd wrote

There are a lot of great books written for real people, and not just stuffy academic types about historical subjects that are waiting to be read

And a grand example of this is Scottish Chiefs by Miss Jane Porter. My copy, which is a Rand McNally & Co. edition from before 1910, proclaims that Wallace WAS NOT hanged drawn and quartered as history tells us, but that he died in captivity, and his body spirited back to Scotland for respectful though secret burial. According to Miss Porter, the body drawn and quartered belonged to a common felon who bore a resemblance to Wallace (IIRC)

It is a good read but I wouldn't take most of it as historical fact.

BTW, there are a couple of other editions of Scottish Chiefs available on line, but they are different editions from mine. If you are interested, there is one edition posted at Electric Scotland http://www.electricscotland.com/hist...mestic/chiefs/ and another edition at A Celebration of Women Writers: http://digital.library.upenn.edu/wom...fs/chiefs.html