Be careful with the Doc's. Many of them are now being made in China, and I've heard the quality is not as it used to be. Check out www.Zappos.com as great online shoe source. BTW, I bought a pair of boots at Payless for $24.00, and I'm fairly happy with them. I haven't worn them a whole lot, so I don't know how long they will last, but I've heard other board members comment on how good they were.