The Tartan Police!

[macwilkin]

I think James has made some excellent points & did so in a very thoughtful and respectful manner. Thank you, James.

Respect is a two-way street. I know I'm sounding like a broken record here, but in order to get respect you must give it. I am a traditionalist when it comes to kilts, but I would never dream of saying that those who wear the "modern" variations such as Utilikilts, etc. are wrong and should immediately conform to my beliefs. On the same token, I would hope that the same respect would be returned and shown to me for my beliefs.

Some of the most intolerant people I have ever met in my 31 years on this piece of solar driftwood were those claiming to be "tolerant" -- they were "non-conformists" who believe everyone else should be "non-conforming" as well, which kinda defeats the whole purpose of non-conformity, as I see it.

Who cares, all that matters is that you stop wearing troosers. They are uncomfortable.

Some of us cannot wear the kilt everyday, for employment, financial, or personal reasons; my personal opinion is that since my kilt is such a special garment to me, in regards to my Scots heritage, that I do not want it to become just an "ordinary" garment, like a pair of trousers. But, that is just my personal opinion, not Gospel. I have a lot of respect for those who wear a kilt everyday, and I do not believe they are "wrong" because their kilt-wearing habits do not match mine. Are we no less a kilt-wearer because we choose not (or cannot) to wear one everyday?

Theodore Roosevelt once said that "courtsey is much a mark of a gentleman as courage". I think those are words to live by.

Cheers,

Todd

[Dreadbelly]

Todd, I meant no disrespect what so ever with that line. Just a sincere and heartfelt emotion for me.

For a so called enlightened society, there is an awful lot of restriction on what we can and can not wear. That irks me.

I wear the kilt every day to make a statement. Pretty soon, I wont be wearing a kilt every day. I will be wearing a kilt on some days, a sarong on others, and a kikoi or a Macabi on others.

I am feeling brave and cocky... It's time to terrorise the public with my anti conformist ways :razz:

[bubba]

Humans, as a group, are herd beasts. Anything that differs from the herd is suppressed as much as possible. It isn't laws or regulations that do it, it's the people themselves, the neighbors, those we work with, everyone around us. The pressure to conform can be pretty severe at times and those of us that can withstand that pressure and be different, be ourselves, frighten the rest.

[Dreadbelly]

Humans, as a group, are herd beasts. Anything that differs from the herd is suppressed as much as possible. It isn't laws or regulations that do it, it's the people themselves, the neighbors, those we work with, everyone around us. The pressure to conform can be pretty severe at times and those of us that can withstand that pressure and be different, be ourselves, frighten the rest.

And, to expand on your thoughts Bubba... Kilt wearers are another herd. Of sorts. A smaller herd, but a herd non the less, with it's own social structure and conformist statutes, er, traditions. And when somebody in the kilt wearing herd stands out from fellow kilt wearers, stuff happens. Just look at the X-Marks crowd... OMG don't wear this or that with your kilt!!! NOES!

Hmm this has me thinking. Suddenly a lot of thoughts are tumbling in the nearly empty space between my ears.

X-Marks exists because us anti conformist types seek other anti conformist types to conform with.

Bah! I just logicked my way into a corner I can't get out of damnit!

[Scotus]

X Marks exists for non-conformists?! I thought it was for people who wore and appreciated the kilt.

[Dreadbelly]

X Marks exists for non-conformists?! I thought it was for people who wore and appreciated the kilt.

Incase you missed the obvious somehow, a lot of non comformist types do tend to hang out here.

**Still holding tongue**

[macwilkin]

And, to expand on your thoughts Bubba... Kilt wearers are another herd. Of sorts. A smaller herd, but a herd non the less, with it's own social structure and conformist statutes, er, traditions. And when somebody in the kilt wearing herd stands out from fellow kilt wearers, stuff happens. Just look at the X-Marks crowd... OMG don't wear this or that with your kilt!!! NOES!

Hmm this has me thinking. Suddenly a lot of thoughts are tumbling in the nearly empty space between my ears.

X-Marks exists because us anti conformist types seek other anti conformist types to conform with.

Bah! I just logicked my way into a corner I can't get out of damnit!

Dreadbelly,

Remember...one man's "conformist statutes" are another man's traditions. Again, repect is a two-way street.

I personally object to your negative implications that those of us who are traditionalists are part of the "kilt-wearing herd". That is exactly what I was talking about in my previous post.

Todd

[Dreadbelly]

Dreadbelly,

Remember...one man's "conformist statutes" are another man's traditions. Again, repect is a two-way street.

I personally object to your negative implications that those of us who are traditionalists are part of the "kilt-wearing herd". That is exactly what I was talking about in my previous post.

Todd

Point taken, but that was not negative. More of a neutral observation. Like it or not, I am part of this herd my self. I live in this glass house my self, so believe me, I am not intentionally throwing any rocks.

I personally appreciate that there are people (like you) that keep the flame alive for these "traditions."

[Rob Wright]

There are many of us who mix what we wear. I wear the contemporary style kilts for work and on the weekends and for special events and what not I go casual to full traditional. Each has there place. I love the traditional look. But it is not practical for much of what we do today. That is were the contemporary's come in.

The perfect example is our very own Hamish. Look at his photo album and you will see the perfect mixing of traditional and contemporary kilt styles.

I don't care for some of utilikilts models but some I can see some of them being very useful in several different situations.

Wear what is appropriate for the task or function, very simple.

Rob who has

1 9yd traditional Douglas Modern
1 9 yd traditional Douglas Ancient
1 Casul Machine sewn Douglas Modern
1 Navy Blue USA Kilts Victory
1 Pittsburgh Kilt 12 oz Black solid basic kilt
1 Pittsburgh Kilt 10 oz Black Solid bvasic kilt
On order 1 9 yd traditional Douglas Grey Ancient

[Archangel]

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X-Marks exists because us anti conformist types seek other anti conformist types to conform with.

Bah! I just logicked my way into a corner I can't get out of damnit!

This reminds me of George Carlin and the non-conformist pledge skit.
Or the posting of rules at the Anarchist convention.
Ah, the sound of a conundrum.