Little holes in my UK Kilts? Silence on the UK Board

[Riverkilt]

Parallel to the hemline/beltline/waistline on the edge of the pleats. One row about 3" above the hem, another row about 9" above the hem (6" between rows of holes)

The holes are equidistant apart all around the kilt on my basil and tan survival. Some on my caramel workman's, none apparent on my black workman's, none apparent on my tan or camo originals or blue denim, none on the three mockers, and not on the brown leather.

Would like to know where they came from and how big they're gonna get over time...

[The Wizard of BC]

Yea, that sounds about right. The cutting maching that slices the fabric into long strips uses rollers with spur like tensioning wheels. It's supposed to keep the fabric spread out along the rollers as it is feed into some circular cutting wheels.
The spurs pull the fabric off the roll and into the cutters. There has to be quite a bit of tension and I'm guessing that's where the holes come from.

[Riverkilt]

Okay, this off the UK board from a boardmember through Otto to Lori...

These holes are called drill holes - they're the way the pleat lines are
>marked for sewing. They're literally drilled through the fabric during
>cutting. It allows for very quick and accurate marking through very
>thick stacks of fabric. On a synthetic fiber or a blend, the holes will
>fuse and not fray at all (the drill gets hot), but on a natural fabric
>they can break fibers.
>
>You can purchase a product like Fray Check at a fabric store for a
>minimal price - it will prevent any further fraying.
>
>-- Lori


Of course I've managed to rile a UK loyalist on that board...oh well. Corporate loyalty is its own reward...

Ron

[cavscout]

Of course I've managed to rile a UK loyalist on that board...oh well.

That's one of the things old Devil Dogs do best

[Kilts_Knave]

... old Devil Dogs ...

I believe the correct term for us is "Old Salts..." :-D And I have done that already in a couple of my posts! That's why you see many of mine deleted.

[bubba]

The problem with Fray Check and other brands of fray stop is it washes out. It's intended for use during garment construction, not a permanent fix. It'll hold through one washing at best. There are other fabric adhesives that dry clear that don't wash out but you'll want to apply them very carefully so they just cover the edges of the holes.

[arrogcow]

Let the ranting begin:

First, Ron, I'm truely sorry that you don't like Utilikilts. Please stop buying them. For nearly a year now I have seen you constantly complain about every UK you have (it took too long to get, the snap was wrong, they charged me "before" it was made, they sent the wrong color (ever though that was what you ordered and didn't double check your order) and now you've got holes)

I have nine UK's (ok 8 I just sold one to SAV). I have never waited more than 5 weeks for one, never had a bad snap, everyone charges before it is made (Bear is aparently taking a year to fullfill orders that are paid for if you believe other posts on this forum), and I don't have any of these "holes" in any of my UK's. Heck, they even made you Utilikiltarian of the month and gave you a free one (I've never been UKer of the month, and Lord knows that they have enough pictures of me).

Apparently your karma prevents you from having a positive experience with the Seattle folk, so give up.


Second, Steve, your coment, "I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production," is a comment. A sweat shop is a third world (or illegal imegrant) shop where people work for like $0.50 a day. UK uses professional sewing companies that pay a living wage. Are UK's mass produced instead of hand made? Yes, deal with it. Your statements are libelous.

Now before everyone starts shaking their heads, saying, "loyal UK suporter," let me state that I own a Thomas Gordan Tank, a Stillwater kilt, and a PK in addition to my UK's. All are fantastic garments. I am going to be buying another PK real soon, and have been seriously considering either an RKilt or one of Steve's Freedom kilts as well.

But what really grippes me is the fact that the mutual praise fest that most of the kilt makers here have (Jeff has said great things about Steve who has said great things about Rocky who has said great things about...) totally ignores UK (and Amerikilt for that matter). Without UK, NONE of the casual kilt makers would be in business. Before UK the only non-traditional kilts available were 21st Century kilts, and they still cost as much as a traditional that it really wasn't possible to have 3-10 in a wardrobe to wear all the time. Steve at UK had an idea, and it has spawned a huge movement in Men's clothing.

I have no problems with not liking the UK style. One of the reasons I bought my first PK was because Jeff's attitude of, "UK's are great, but I do something a little different." And his kilt fits a niche in my wardrobe that UK doesn't.

Yes, UK does alot of mass produced business, and quality control could probably be better (I do believe your stories Ron, just amazed that they all happen to you while no one else ever complains). But taking pot shots at the big dog is BS. There are many guys that first start wearing UK's then end up with others. Frankly most of you kilt makers here owe your business to UK. Be positive in all your coments and celebrate your different styles.

Adam

[bubba]

Well, I don't see talking about problems as taking potshots. Maybe UK did get the ball rolling but that doesn't give them immunity if they're screwing something up. Lets just hope they FIX the problems. One of the purposes of this board is to talk about this stuff.

[The Wizard of BC]

I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.

[Dreadbelly]

I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.
I will not make comments about the wonders of the modern Sweat Shop Mass Production.

You had better not do it. Last time I did it, I had a bunch of people on this board coming after me with pitchforks and torches... Run you fool!