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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaronx71
    Germany became "Germany" in 1871. Before this, the Germanic collection of states and principalities was known as The German Empire. "Germans" probably did not think of themselves as "Germans" before 1871-- remember in the American Revolution, the mercinary armies from Hesse we called "Hessians" not "Germans"
    Thank you, I knew it was later in the 19th Century. Here, I'm responding to somebody else's statement which he sort of makes clearer later on in a fuzzy way. I'm saying birth and residence established her as a British Queen, he is saying that past and future blood connections with nascent German states established her as a German Queen of Britain. I can accept that she was the British Queen with connections to various German states.....and so, to bed.

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    And also remember that the Pennsylvania Dutch are not Dutch at all. They are Germans and the "Ducth" name came about when their neighbors corrupted Deutsch to "Dutch."

    Even though Germany as a nation-state did not exist until the German Reich was proclaimed in Versailles Palace by Wilhelm I in 1870, the concept of Germany as a collection of principalities was long in existance. (In fact, the concept of Germany came into being during the late Roman period. Does the name Germanicus ring any bells?) Sort of like the fact that British American Colonists were called Americans long before the Delcaration of Independence.

    As further and final clarification, I referred to Queen Victoria as "German" not to indicate that she was not a British Queen, but that her blood and heritage were strongly German. Not unlike most typical Americans. For example, I am an American Citizen, and Alabaman by birth, of Scots, English, Welsh, Creek, and Cherokee bloodlines. So Queen Victoria was a British Queen, and Empress of India, English by birth, and of German bloodlines.

    Clear enough?

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