Elements of Exposure, Indecent and Otherwise

[ZelieMike]

Or, just avoid states were its really hot, the state police wear very dark sunglasses and cowboy hats, are named "something" Lee, and ask "Just what are ya'll think you wear'n boy?".



ZM

[Doc Hudson]

If I made similar comments about a Northeastern State, or another country, folks would get on my back about bigotry.

This is another great examle of people of people finding it acceptable to make fun of Southern states.

[bubba]

Aw Doc, don't worry about it. They call us in Wisconsin cheeseheads for cripes sake. ;)

[Streetcar]

Doc, I took the liberty of checking the laws of Mississippi:

§ 97-29-31. Indecent exposure.

A person who wilfully and lewdly exposes his person, or private parts thereof, in any public place, or in any place where others are present, or procures another to so expose himself, is guilty of a misdemeanor and, on conviction, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars ($500.00) or be imprisoned not exceeding six (6) months, or both.

Again, the exposure must be wilfull and lewd. Accidents are accidents.

I used to patrol an area that had visible cross-dressing segment. I have stopped men who were wearing very short skirts with nothing underneath. When they were walking down the sidewalk making accidental exposures, I'd give them a friendly but firm warning and they'd be on their way.

I've also stopped men who were "hanging around" groups of young children at a wading pool who had their genitals "accidentally" hanging out the leg of their shorts. Needles to say, they didn't get a "friendly warning."

The point I'm trying to make is it can be very situational. I REALLY don't think the average kilt wearer has to worry about prosecution because of a stray breeze.

[toadinakilt]

If I made similar comments about a Northeastern State, or another country, folks would get on my back about bigotry.

This is another great example of people finding it acceptable to make fun of Southern states.

Sheesh, man, I'm from NC, and everybody knows in NC tobacco is considered a foodgroup.

What I would like to see...is the word "bigot" dropped from the dictionary...

On topic, IMHO, being worried about accidental exposure comes from (rightly) suppressed cultural training we all suffer from that says pants are for men...I just wear a sporran, and simply am more careful on windy days...if the kilt is heavy enough, and you have decent reflexes, you can stop the kilt from lifting past mid-thigh...

[Archangel]

If I made similar comments about a Northeastern State, or another country, folks would get on my back about bigotry.

This is another great examle of people of people finding it acceptable to make fun of Southern states.

Doc, Doc, you gotta learn to relax. From my view up here, that's my view of every trooper south of the border. Not only that, it's been pretty well my experience in NY., Mich., and CT. You got to remember up here our cops wear kilts. (Well, at some Highland Games events anyway, do your heart good to see our finest in kilt, flakjak, pistol and nightstick.)

[Doc Hudson]

If I'm a bit touchy, it is because I belong to three of the four minority groups that are considered fair target for insult and discrimination.

1 - I'm a straight white male, not to mention the fact I wear a kilt.

2 - I am a Southerner

3 - I own and carry a gun on a regular basis.

The only "fair-game" minority group I do not belong to are the smokers, and I smoked for 23 years before quitting 10 years ago.

I am heartily sick and tired of the unthinking backhanded insults that pass for humor. And BTW, one of my uncles was an Alabama State Trooper for 30 years.

I didn't resent the comment about state troopers, after all most of them are pains in the **** (including my Uncle Bud). I resented the insinuation that Southern cops were nothing more than real life imitations of Sheriff Buford T. Justice (Jackie Gleason's character in Smoky and the Bandit). Southern cops in general are just as qualified and just as professional as cops in other regions. They have the same percentage of dedicated professionals, and scum that need to be behind bars as other regions, and I suspect most other countries as well.

I am heartily sick of the smart-arsed unthinking insults just as much as the intentional insults that are common. And until Hank decides to kick me off the forum, I won't sit back without making comment while my home region is being inchlted, or made the butt of jokes.

Yes, I am an Unreconstructed Confederate, and a Southern Nationalist. And mark my words folks, the South is not "Gonna rise agin." The South IS Rising! Now!

[Archangel]

If I'm a bit touchy, it is because I belong to three of the four minority groups that are considered fair target for insult and discrimination.

1 - I'm a straight white male, not to mention the fact I wear a kilt.

2 - I am a Southerner

3 - I own and carry a gun on a regular basis.

The only "fair-game" minority group I do not belong to are the smokers, and I smoked for 23 years before quitting 10 years ago.

I am heartily sick and tired of the unthinking backhanded insults that pass for humor. And BTW, one of my uncles was an Alabama State Trooper for 30 years.

I didn't resent the comment about state troopers, after all most of them are pains in the **** (including my Uncle Bud). I resented the insinuation that Southern cops were nothing more than real life imitations of Sheriff Buford T. Justice (Jackie Gleason's character in Smoky and the Bandit). Southern cops in general are just as qualified and just as professional as cops in other regions. They have the same percentage of dedicated professionals, and scum that need to be behind bars as other regions, and I suspect most other countries as well.

I am heartily sick of the smart-arsed unthinking insults just as much as the intentional insults that are common. And until Hank decides to kick me off the forum, I won't sit back without making comment while my home region is being inchlted, or made the butt of jokes.

Yes, I am an Unreconstructed Confederate, and a Southern Nationalist. And mark my words folks, the South is not "Gonna rise agin." The South IS Rising! Now!

it might be a good time to double check the definition of discrimination and see if it applies here.
and I am restraining my self from any comment on the last paragraph, all those people died for nought, then

[James]

As a Brit I'm impervious to-nay ignorant of your various state/regional differences: so will come back to the original point.

Firstly it is a fact that such a garment as the kilt will entail a certain risk factor: and everyone accepts that accidents will happen.

However there is something else, the kilt is the garb of a gentleman: and it is therefore incumbent upon the wearer to take every possible precaution so as not to give offence to others: be that in how they sit-wear or not wear underwear, and even the activities they engage upon whilst wearing the kilt.

To put this at it's bluntest-you'd not want your wife or mother to be subjected to the indignity of seeing my private parts-thanks to my lack of consideration. Well that is something which applies in respect of all ladies, regardless of their age or whatever.

So it is up to us as kilt wearers to behave with all reasonable decorum.

Sorry if the above appears uncompromising, possibly inhibiting to those who have only recently adopted the kilt. However it is the attitude taken by those like myself who have been wearing the kilt since childhood as a part of our proud heritage: for it is what we were taught by our parents, and it follows the example set by our peers-clan chiefs-elders and the like.

For to us the kilt is not just a sensible way of dressing, it links to something far deeper within our very being.

James

[Archangel]

As a Brit I'm impervious to-nay ignorant of your various state/regional differences: so will come back to the original point.

Firstly it is a fact that such a garment as the kilt will entail a certain risk factor: and everyone accepts that accidents will happen.

However there is something else, the kilt is the garb of a gentleman: and it is therefore incumbent upon the wearer to take every possible precaution so as not to give offence to others: be that in how they sit-wear or not wear underwear, and even the activities they engage upon whilst wearing the kilt.

To put this at it's bluntest-you'd not want your wife or mother to be subjected to the indignity of seeing my private parts-thanks to my lack of consideration. Well that is something which applies in respect of all ladies, regardless of their age or whatever.

So it is up to us as kilt wearers to behave with all reasonable decorum.

Sorry if the above appears uncompromising, possibly inhibiting to those who have only recently adopted the kilt. However it is the attitude taken by those like myself who have been wearing the kilt since childhood as a part of our proud heritage: for it is what we were taught by our parents, and it follows the example set by our peers-clan chiefs-elders and the like.

For to us the kilt is not just a sensible way of dressing, it links to something far deeper within our very being.

James

very well put.
I want to add another comment but I'm not sure how to put it. I said in another thread: if one doesn't purpose to prevent an accident, then the accident was on purpose. I get the impression from a few, not a large number, that this is a reason to wear a kilt. Or that a kilt gives one permission to act this way. A certain kiltmaker's website really turned me off his product because it seemed to promote the idea of flashing and that it would be easier in his kilt. There's a line here we should not be crossing and it is best expressed in James' re-interpretation of the Golden Rule in his third sentence.