Kilts on airplanes

[binx]

Had no trouble at all. What was great was the removable sporran. Change was already in there. Put watch and cell phone in, unfastened, and put it on a tray; went right through. Had the security lady help re-fasten it . Put my wallet in it during the flight to make purchases.

binx

[Graham]

OK, this is what I found...
basically it varies from airport to airport.

I found US airports a security nightmare, it didn't matter what I did, what I wore or what I removed...I got "selected" for wanding, not just once, but repeated times, (palms up, palms down right foot forward, left foot forward, even up the kilt).
After 24 hours without sleep this process is annoying, even humiliating.
It put a very sour taste in my mouth for America and I will NEVER fly into LA again, it is the worst airport in the world for delays and poor staff attitudes.

British and Danish airports were much better with security, yes, even London.
The buckles in most cases didn't make a lot of difference, a quick explanation and maybe a quick wanding was all that was necessary.

If you really don't want to be wanded, wear velcro, but it makes little difference in the US, they do what they heck they want.

Naturally, sporrans must be removed, sometimes belts, don't wear a kilt pin and NEVER wear a sgian dhu, not even a plastic one. (altho, I did go thru Copenhagen airport and forgot about my kilt pin and nothing was said)

[Raphael]

I am flying out this Friday afternoon, and I intend to wear my Bear Kilt for the journey.

[Lee]

Just back from a trip to Vancouver Island - my first air travel while kilted. Survived security checks in Ottawa and Victoria airports.
I removed my kilt pin and stowed it in my checked baggage - was sure that it would be confiscated, otherwise.

The kilt hose garters seemed to intrigue staff at both airports. Go figure.

Lee

[Graham]

welcome back, glad it went well.

you may not realise the potential danger of flashes, the elastic can be used as a slingshot and therefor is regarded as a weapon of mass destruction, so the airport was justified in being cautious.

and yet...(seriously) I brought back two bottles of whisky. A glass bottle on a plane could do some serious damage in the wrong hands!!

[Hamish]

Having recently travelled from London (Gatwick) to Vancouver, and then back again two weeks later, I can report the following:

For both flights I wore a Standard model (zip fly front, now discontinued) Original Utilikilt. The only 'snaps' on this model are those on the pocket flaps and two at the waistband, beneath the belt buckle. I also wore slip-on shoes, rather than boots or lace-up shoes, for ease of removal if required at security (and for simple removal during the 10 hour flight). Other than that I was wearing an open-necked, long-sleeved shirt and kilt hose.

At both airports, I emptied my pockets into my carry-on shoulder bag, and before stepping through the security 'arch', I indicated my belt buckle and the snaps to the official in charge and was waved through with total friendliness and courtesy. At both airports it was the six kilt snaps and belt buckle that set off the alarms. This prompted the 'wanding ceremony' and the examination of the soles of my shoes, but this was no problem at all. I experienced no intimidation or pressure because I was wearing a Utilikilt.

Frankly, I expect to be wanded at airports and have no objection to it - of course, much depends upon the attitude of the officials at security, but I have never been hassled in that area. Now, Passport Control (or Immigration) is something else - not in Canada, they couldn't have been more pleasant, considering their jobs - but on entering the USA when Dave and I made our Coast-to-Coast Tour in 2003 it was a very different story. Extremely 'rude' and 'obnoxious' are two words that come immediately to mind when I recall that 'welcoming committee' at JFK airport. I was much better treated when I paid two visits to Moscow back in the late 80's - and that's saying a lot!

My advice then: do not travel in a full, 8 yard kilt. Those aircraft seats are devilishly difficult to settle into at the best of times, without having to arrange all that fabric beneath you for a long flight. Footwear: make sure it is of the type easy to get out of and into in a hurry. Carry a couple of small plastic bags in your pockets then, prior to security, put all the contents of your pockets into those bags, which can then be put into your carry-on bag or put into, and easily retrieved from, the plastic tray they provide. If you are wearing a belt buckle, or any other metallic items, point them out before you pass through that arch. Kilt pins are best avoided. Some airports might conviscate them - best pack them in your check-in baggage.

I trust that helps.

[Raphael]

I just flew home from Fort St. John, BC and I was kilted the both way. I was wearing my 4 yard Bear Kilt. The 4 yarder is the best kilt to travel in. It has no metal buckles and I didn't need to wear a belt either. I didn't set off the alarm. After sitting on the seat for 2 hours, it was wrinkle free.

Really, What do you expect airport securities to think of your kilt anyway?

[Graham]

Good report Hamish, and good advice.

I would expect nothing but courtesy from Canadian and British airports.
I found Denver and San Fransisco good too, but don't ever go through LA, I never will again.

I wish I'd worn slip on shoes, that's a good one.

[flyv65]

I found Denver and San Fransisco good too, but don't ever go through LA, I never will again.

I can assure you as a regular flyer out of DIA (Denver) that courtesy on the part of the security drones must be entirely the luck of the draw. I've never flown out of that airport (and I do it frequently) without being wanded or at least scrutinized.

Bryan...and a government ID doesn't help a bit...

[Wompet]

I've only been kilted for a year or so, but these were the reasons why I went bifurcated when travelling, or just going into an airport. I knew a kilt would be more comfortable, especially on the ten-hour trip from El Paso to Buffalo, but I didn't feel like dealing with other people's ignorance and paranoia.

Oh, and Binx -

What was great was the removable sporran. ... Had the security lady help re-fasten it .

binx

If she was a US security screener, she was either taking advantage of the situation ;-) , or she took you for a transvestite .
I don't mean anyone any offense by that remark. It's just that I work with someone who used to be a security screener, and she and I had a long talk about this one afternoon. As I understand it, you're supposed to be searched by someone as the same sex that you present. That is, if you're a man in men's clothing, you're searched by a man; if you're obviously a woman, you're searched by a woman; if you're a man in a kilt, you're a man in a kilt, not a man presenting himself as a woman in a skirt.
Just something for folks to keep in mind during future travelling.