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7th September 05, 05:08 PM
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Union Jack Kilt
I posted this briefly in my newbie post, but that I'd explore it more here. I saw a picture from "Dressed to Kilt" of a complete Union Jack flag. I emailed Pittsburgh kilts about this. They can't do the whole kilt as the flag, but could do the apron as the Union Jack, and then we can get creative with the remainder of the kilt. Solid color, two tone, flag inside/outside pleats, etc. Just thought I'd ask the experts here what they thought. Discuss...
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7th September 05, 05:30 PM
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You mean like the Saltire, but with a Union Jack?
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7th September 05, 05:38 PM
#3
This is the best pic I could find of it:
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7th September 05, 07:33 PM
#4
The BBC-America channel has a guy in a Union flag (not jack, unless it's flying on a ship) kilt in one of it's older ads. It's interesting. Are you British?
It seems a bit faddish to me, as clothing items with the Union flag periodically come into style, & then go out of style. But if you would enjoy having one, go for it.
I love, love, love the Saltire kilt. Alex Beaton was wearing one at the Texas Scottish Festival last June, & it looked awesome. I love the way the pleats look when they swing. My son would love to have one himself.
Yep, we really like it. :-D
Sherry
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7th September 05, 08:16 PM
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The only problem with the Union flag (thank you, dear sis!) is that at least here in America, (and I know it can be inaacurate in other countries,) there is an association with racism and skinheads- something I don't think I'd want people thinking of when they saw a kilt.
Just a thought.
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7th September 05, 09:00 PM
#6
Jeff may not be able to do what you have in mind, but he may have something even better...like a royal blue kilt with red and white underpleats and a Union jack/flag on the apron.
Check the Arizona Tri-Color kilt Jeff (Pittsburgh kilts) did for me in my gallery. I love mine!
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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8th September 05, 12:05 AM
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Whilst I accept that on occasion the Union Flag is abused: to put this the other way round: I certainly would not abuse the American Flag in such a way.
Here I would remind you that British soldiers are serving alongside Americans in a theatre of operations at this very time.
Whilst as for a suggestion that the Union Flag can be associated with racism, that is offensive in the extreme.
I'm sorry, but there are times when a certain sensitivity is called for.
James
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8th September 05, 07:10 AM
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Apologies if I've offended anyone with my suggestion of putting a Union Flag (never knew Union Jack wasn't the proper term) on a kilt. What's the difference in that or the ones with a Scottish Flag?
Riverkilt-
I've seen and spoken to you before about the AZ flag Jeff has made for you (I'm on the UK list as well). And your suggestions are exactly what I've discussed with him (Flag on the apron, differnt colors on the remainder of the kilt). I was thinking maybe blue outside, white or red inside. Just wanted to see what others thought
Sherry-
I'm not British in the sense that I am born/raised/live in the UK. I've got British/Welsh roots, but just have a love for all thinks British (well, maybe not all...) Honeymooned in the UK, watch BBC-America religiously, etc etc etc. I've even got a tat that fades from an American flag into the Union.
James-
See my opening statement. No harm was meant. And maybe I'm taking your comments the wrong way. I've never heard of the Union being a sign for racism, etc. New to me. Is it your though that a flag used as/on clothing is wrong?
Thanks all, again, for helping a newb!
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8th September 05, 07:31 AM
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It is actually illegal (though not usually enforced - except in the case of Larry Flynt) to make clothing that looks like the American Flag. Most countries are not quite as uptight about it, which is why you will see the Union flag made as clothing.
Adam
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8th September 05, 08:39 AM
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Since I have not been able to attached photos on this site you can go to my profile (lrpddrummie) in the members list and see a picture of my Satire kilt. As far as the Union (JacK) flag I think if your base kilt is done in the colors of UK then you could avoid some confusion, but there will always be somebody who will let their ignorance show and make a stupid comment.
Adam,
I would like to see the law as it is written that prevents one from making clothing that looks like the American Flag. It is common misconception that is illegal to desecrate the flag (Texas vs. Johnson (a 1989 Supreme Court decision) ruled that those laws are unconstitutional.) I would assume since it is illegal to use the flag in advertising (The Supreme Court decision Halter vs. Nebraska 1907 held that you can't use the flag in advertising.) that it may fall under that ruling. It would be interesting to see the actual law.
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